Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness (Sam Raimi, May 6, 2022) Movie • Page 45

But even the stuff that starts standalone will be important down the line. Like the Guardians movies are standalone but then they show up in Infinity War and you'd be like "Huh?" if you hadn't seen the Guardians movies. Moon Knight will be involved in other stuff at some point down the line and then that show will also be required viewing for something else.

Like I'm sure the Ms. Marvel show will mostly be standalone but then she's going to be in The Marvels next year, so it's not really.

 

And it works both ways. You won't be able to go from Guardians 2 to Guardians 3 without having seen Infinity War and Endgame.

 

Guardians 3 may also require Thor: Love & Thunder. It'll definitely require watching the Holiday Special on Disney+ this winter.

 

I got this without seeing Wanda vision

If these become Disney plus commercials that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, Disney has enough money haha

 

Im curious about your experience having not seeing WV. I assume you heard stuff at least but was there any like “huh?” Moments or were you pretty much at 100%

 

But it's not that. It's not WandaVision season two. Loki is getting a season two and that's another season of the same thing.

Disney is just being a bunch of greedy fucks.

 

The entire MCU is a series. Like it or not, that's what it is. That's why I hate all these articles of like "so-and-so not getting a season 2". It is! That's what this is! That's how it's supposed to work. The next season of Moon Knight is Dr. Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness. And when Ms. Marvel comes out, its next season will be Thor: Love And Thunder. That's how this works.

It has nothing to do with being "greedy fucks". Whether they are or not is beside the point. I'm sorry, not every adventure in this thing can be written as a standalone episode. That's fucking dumb.

 

Nah, it's not the same at all. Otherwise they'd all be movies or they'd all be TV shows.

 

That makes absolutely no sense as an argument.

 

What are you TALKING about?! Of course it does.

They are structurally different, marketed differently, consumed differently and experienced differently.

Are you saying a movie can't be a sequel to a show and vice versa? Because I agree with that, but that doesn't mean Multiverse of Madness is season 2 of Wandavision because that's just not true. Doctor Strange is the MAIN character not Wanda and it's a completely different experience.

You can say it's a follow-up or a side story or whatever, but saying it's season 2 is just weird.

The reason why semantics exist is because different things have different meanings and exist for different reasons. So it may seem very petty, but the distinction matters.

 

I'm trying to illustrate a point about how the MCU, movies and shows both, are one series, and every new item in it is an iteration of the larger whole.

I'm absolutely saying a movie can be a sequel to a show and a show can be a sequel to a movie, and in this case, it absolutely is. That's how the whole thing is meant to work.

That's what I mean when I say that Dr. Strange is Season 2 of Moon Knight. No I don't mean a literal season or even that one is following up on the other, but I mean that everything in the MCU is meant to be a part of the whole picture.

 

That I understand and agree with. I just think it would be real weird if their was a season 2 of WV and then you would have Disney + organize the shows like this:

Doctor Strange -> Infinity War -> Endgame - Wandavision S1 -> Doctor Strange: MOM -> Wandavision S2

Implying you have to watch all of that just to be able to watch S2 of a show. I just wish all of this was structured a little better.

 

I pretty much knew the gist and was able to get it from context clues, I couldn't tell exactly what the story was with the kids but enough to understand

and honestly after 15 years of mcu films I forget half of what happened in the movies I actually saw haha

 

I just realized your username could be a Origami Angel song.

 

Yeah, I am kind of curious how Loki Season 2 is going to work. If it's just going to pick up exactly where Loki Season 1 left off with no reference to anything in-between or if it's going to factor in anything from what's come out between seasons. It's an odd predicament.

Although I seem to remember, doesn't Disney's Marvel section have sorted lists like that for certain characters? I could be misremembering, but I could swear I've seen something like that where it shows all the relevant productions for a particular character?

Maybe I made that up.

 

The first 8 episodes of WV had me wanting more while the last episode gave me the same bloated feeling I get whenever I eat too many chicken wings.

Even with the finale it’s still a better-than-average Marvel show and I think Wanda’s antagonistic role in MOM is a good follow. None of the Wanda stuff in MOM is why I only see it as ehh.

Having said that, MOM feels like the 2nd of a 3-part arc for Wanda.

 

Finally saw this and apologies if this has already been discussed but Krasinski is actively bad in this. Low hopes for Fantastic Four if this is what he’s bringing.

 

He’s in it so little I honestly have no real opinion on him. Which, I guess you could argue isn’t a good takeaway on it.

 

The impression I got from Krasinski as Reed in this is pretty much exactly what I always expected from Krasniski as Reed

 

Yeah, I don't think he was given enough to honestly make an impression with, but I also don't think he did anything badly either.

 

it's the most wooden scene of his career and he's hardly philip seymour hoffman

 

I certainly won’t defend his performance.

 

I mean, he clearly did his stuff by himself later, for a small role he’s never played before.

I don’t get that fan casting and have no reason at the moment to care about the F4 movie. But, for the glorified extra who gets merked that he played here, he was… serviceable. Not distracting or memorable to me, personally.

 

Yup

 

I agree. He was horrible.