boygenius - The Record (March 31, 2023) • Page 20

All points I agree with. The problem is lack of transparency which drives consumers like myself nuts, as opposed to the actual price. The problem lies in that most acts don't want to appear greedy so they hide behind the shields of large corporations when they and their management are the ones making these backdoor deals. It's probably hard to truly determine how much a ticket will go for but if acts have been watching others profit off their shows for years, they'll want to (rightly so in my opinion) be the ones making that money and not some deadbeats with a bunch of computer software. What we've been seeing in the last 3-4 years (and more so post-pandemic) is the "face" value of the tickets being priced close to or at market value which has understandably given buyers sticker shock.

What I think is needed before large tours/shows go on sales is some sort of directory where you can look up your city, show and each section is clearly marked. IF dynamic pricing will be enabled, there should be historical data that can be used as a guide to give you fluctuation percentages so people can be more prepared for the prices they'll be paying.

 

hopefully the boygenius cover band plays mulcahys soon

 

idk if you read what I wrote bc I never said they were the wrong price. I’d gladly hand boygenius these ticket prices if the 1/3 the price was not going to some ticket broker who is definitely not providing 1/3 the value.

 

You joke but Phoebe Bridgers tribute nights will be happening soon.

 

1/3 of the price is not going to the ticketing platform. Majority goes to cover the acts fee as well as the promoter and probable the venue. The fee is just a way to mask that.

 

But then that still goes back to ticketmaster & friends taking advantage of everyone. At the end of the day, they could make more serious efforts to combat scalping, which would benefit the artists and consumers. I understand the artists are not entirely blameless as well, but they're working within a system they didn't set up as well.

 

The artists/promoters are 95% to blame. If someone truly wants to combat scalping they would operate the way the Dice.FM platform operates where if you can't go, you get your ticket refunded and it goes back into the pool at a set price. For high demand shows/seats, acts have the opportunity to make it will call only w/ID. But because there is so much opportunity to be made with resale/platinum ticketing, acts take advantage of that (even everyone's beloved Blink 182 as evidenced by their tour). Also, many consumers LIKE the ability to be able to make last minute decisions and will pay a premium.

To your point, I do imagine that Ticketmater probably presents their dynamic/platinum pricing model to acts and shows them estimated revenue but, ultimately, all decisions stop with the acts and their management. If you see a high ticket price/platinum pricing it's because whoever you are going to see has a high fee and/or wants a higher cut.

 

Definitely spent too much on this, but it’s also the only big name concert I plan on attending this summer so it’s absolutely worth it I’m my book

 

What's your source on this?

 

Everything I've read over the years has confirmed this but Bob Lefsetz's letter gives pretty good insight:

More Ticketing

Also, don't forget that the Smoking Gun has leaked contracts which have acts literally holding back tickets to put on the secondary market themselves:

https://prince.org/msg/8/359493

 

Update: Spotify presale let me in, and loot secured

 

I’m arguing with some kids in the boygenius insta comments who are trying to tell others that a GA ticket doesn’t guarantee them a spot at the Forest Hills show. They’re claiming that overflow will have to listen outside by the merch. I get that the price tiers are confusing, but what?!

 

If there aren't $99 GA anymore...take them off the fucking site.

 

All GA tickets should at least allow you inside the bowl. THAT being said, when the venue did their first big event since re-opening in 2013 w/Mumford & Sons, they sold the entire place as GA and WAY over-sold the venue to the point where people legit couldn't get into the bowl. They had to refund a bunch of people after that.

Forest Hills reopened w/ Mumford & Sons, The Vaccines, fans turned away, residents complaining & more drama (pics)

 

310 for Chicago at Tier 2. This is the dumbest thing ever.

 

if these boys were really geniuses they'd figure out how to make tickets affordable amirite

 

Ya I really wish I had a better feel for the capacity of this event and the actual boygenius demand, because if tickets are going to be available for a while I really didn't need to drop $150 on this today but I couldn't risk it.

 

That's the whole problem. Also gives me a whole lot of concern regarding how much Lolla, Pitchfork, and Riot Fest are going to cost.

Might be sitting out a lot of these this year.

 

Ya idk hopefully it won't be too bad. I mean Riot already increased a lot last year so hopefully it doesn't get worse. Lolla will be interesting to see. Pitchfork is dependent on lineup and if I work out how to get Beyonce tickets anyway.

 

Even though RF was at the front of the increases, I think they still have a lot of headroom to go up.

 

Well don't manifest it! lol

 

Kaitlin and I are rolling the dice haha. Probably will not work out for us, but maybe we get lucky.

 

Definitely let me know if you do end up committing, I'm currently riding solo

 

Will do! Like blink, we are going to monitor the secondary market closer to. We’ll definitely be doing riot. Depending on lineup and cost, we may try and do a day or two of Lolla. With buying a house last year and then wedding stuff this year, trying to pick our spots with bigger shows and festivals this year.

 

Yep I feel you for sure, I've basically made peace with probably only catching blink at festivals this year. It's too hard to do everything, and that's without any big responsibilities coming up on my part haha