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Or a post that belongs on Tom's FB page

 

haha i can't stand the guy, he is the reason one of my favorite bands has gone downhill

 

So far today we have Feldmann bashing and Tom talk. All we need now is a discussion on set lists and we'll hit the blink-182 bingo.

 

I think musicfan has 5 responses they copy and paste in different threads. Today is a Blink "has no good songs anymore" day.

 

I thought I posted that and like maybe people would be stoked about their record sales or something, but yeah no lol. The usual crap.

 

I, for one, am happy for them and Feldmann. I'll die on my 'Feldmann is a song-writing savant' hill.

 

I can't tell from the pic....did the album go Gold or Platinum?

 

Both went gold.

 

That would explain the odd format of all of their posts, I guess!

 

I'm extremely happy for the band and Feldmann, it was well deserved. I said in a previous post the album did exactly what the band wanted it to and should absolutely be celebrated, especially when you think about the toxic environment that had to be going on behind the scenes from the reunion to the 2nd public break up. My only complaint about the album as a whole is that there weren't any memorable guitar parts/sounds/riffs that Tom brought to the table before the first break up in 2005.

 

"Bored to Death" was the perfect comeback single and that's largely Feldmann's doing.

Blink is not as popular as they are again – and, I'd argue, as relevant - without Feldmann guiding California. It's entirely possible that another self-contained, insular album like Neighborhoods would have, without the benefit of it being a big comeback like its predecessor, fallen flat.

 

I'd venture if they released something like Neighborhoods or the DED EP again, the band doesn't exist. I think they'd end it for far longer than the hiatus was.

 

IDK what I want out of blink these days if I am being honest. They're still churning out music I like so I guess they're doing something right. To say I don't get caught up every now and again in the Feldy hate is inaccurate, but it's hard to argue his success and talent. I would prefer to just not see how the sausage is made, I guess, if he's writing so much of their stuff only because I want to hear what they come up with on their own. And I STILL wanna hear what they did with Tim Armstrong! Fuck, there were probably some interesting ideas in that session.

 

If the internet and access to the band were at this level during the early years... I wonder if Blink fans woulda hated Jerry Finn for ruining the band and being too involved.

 

There may have been some. But no way would I ever compare Jerry Finns work for blink to Feldmann’s. Finn was on a whole other level.

 

I think the biggest problem with where the Feldmann hate comes from is because the band, in your words, showed you how the sausage was made. This has been the most open they have been with a recording process during the recording process. As outsiders we have no real idea how the band worked/recorded their previous albums outside of a few tibits here and there. We don't know how hands on producers are, it's possible Jerry Finn was doing the same things Feldmann was or maybe he had an even higher input, we know he helped Tom with some of the lyrics for What Went Wrong and some of the Untitled songs are based off of his experiences growing up. We just have no way to base this stuff on. People just assume that what Feldmann did was something the band never did before. I don't get it really.

 

I would have loved to see how what the final product of Neighborhoods and DED would have been if Finn was in on the recording process. Even California too.

 

Eh probably not as much as you think at first. People would be too busy yelling and screaming "No Scott, no blink"!

 

People hated what he did with Alkaline Trio and AFI when it came out. His legend is sturdy now, but during that time? People wanted Trombino back for Blink and said the same sorta things they say about Feldmann about him. Historically, people want what they fell in love with. If you fell in love with Dude Ranch you want what that was, Enema, untitled, etc.

The history of these bands has always been people wanting them to sound like they did when they fell in love with them. (See: Any thread, especially pop-punk/bands people loved as teenagers.) That gets attached to members, or producers, or anything if it doesn't line up with exactly what they want or remember.

An album that sounds like untitled with Tom produced by Jerry Finn would have people complaining about something. Because it isn't the exact same as the moment they fell in love with an album, and it never will be.

 

very true.

the 2 year jump between Dude Ranch and Enema is way more drastic sounding

 

And all anyone wanted to talk about during that era was "autotune" and things sounding to "clean."

 

This is probably accurate. Albums seemed to have meant more to me when I wasn't watching them be created on Instagram.

Also though, it's entirely possible to dislike his production style without even knowing it was him. I didn't know what records he did and when I went back and looked, it just happened to be that I wasn't really a fan of any of them growing up. Something he does has always turned me away.

 

Everyone is bashing musicfan10 for his comments on Tom, but the real travesty is that he thinks Sober was one of the best songs on California.