Black Mirror (Channel 4, Netflix) TV Show • Page 19

Entire History of You was a hard episode to watch I literally felt so drained after it. The guy was definitely the root of the problem, but I think the show was examining how the technology allowed him to turn something as innocuous as friendly glance into this full on investigation of his partner, and the downwards emotional spiral that came with that.

 

fifteen million merits easily on my top 5.

but mostly because i love ABBA's "I have a dream" and its this episode where i discovered IRMA Thomas' "anyone who knows what love is"

 

Totally didnt get that vibe from the entire history of you. It seemed like him clawing out his memory piece was the logical outcome of his self destructive tendencies, a symbolic painting of the paranoid spiteful man he became

 

His partner cheated on him and raised a child with her thinking it was his and then found out it was the other guys. Idk I don’t really see him as being the bad guy or the problem in that episode

 

stuff he did before he found that out (probably forgetting some too):

* pick a fight over with his wife because he didn't actually want to invite another guy back for more drinks even though he did
* continue this fight by obsessing over minute details that happened during the dinner
* pull the baby sister into their drama
* drive drunk putting others at risk
* physically assault a guy whose simply had consensual sex with his wife, something which the guy in question is 100% not at fault for

guy was an asshole who 100% deserved everything that happened to him and the only real mystery is why his wife didn't leave him sooner. She wasn't right to cheat, but given everything we saw in the episode I completely understand why she did it and why she didn't feel comfortable telling him that she did

 

This discussion has made me rewatch this episode. Main guy is the absolute worst.

But this episode really demonstrates what this show does best, cause there are some really great positives to this technology. The drunk driving warning, the possible use of this technology in the handling of sexual assault cases. But it also presents the downsides with the obsessive rewatching and analyzing of previous events, the woman being assaulted and her device being stolen as a form of sexual assault.

This might be jumping towards the top of my list for this show

 

Also the point of the show is mans relationship to man and how technology can affect us, potentially bring out the worst in us

 

...what?

 

If your significant other cheats on you with another person, the fault is on the significant other not the person they cheated on you with.

 

To add to this, the assaulter did not know at that point that she had been with him since they met. He was assaulting him because of their past alone

 

Yeah, no. Helping to facilitate, being complicit in, or showing no objection to an act of harm incurs fault, and irrespective of how one decides to divvy up blame, it still shows a total lack of regard for another person's well being.

 

The fault lies with the cheater. They were the one who broke the trust. Directing your anger at a random third party stranger is completely misplaced. Its not their fault your significant other cheated. They very conceivably didn't even know cheating was occurring.

Is it reasonable for someone to be pissed at a person who cheated on their significant other? Sure. But they didn't break any promises or betray any trust and are not the ones actually at fault for the cheating.

 

In the event they did (which was the case in TEHOY, if I recall, so this is all still technically on topic), then your post didn't actually address anything I said. The third party still helped facilitate/showed no objection to an act of harm (they moreover, at least in that moment, could've prevented) and they still acted in a way that showed a complete lack of regard for another person's well being. The cheater may bear most of the fault, but those aforementioned general kinds of behaviours are still immoral no matter the circumstances.

 

I wrote a long post about cheating and now it's gone cuz I had to leave midway through fuq. basically context matters a lot and if you neglect it there will be a lot of dissension on who is to blame. most cases I've seen promote both parties as responsible, in which the third party knows they're sleeping with someone who's engaged in a relationship, and there's totally blame on them for that imo. there are cases where it's not the worst thing ever but those are pretty fringe (but maybe common as far as what we'd assume is normal).

 

in these cases you're willfully participating in a blatantly harmful act. any other argument i'm seeing is saying it's indirect but the knowledge is there. I can't reconcile that as not immoral.

edit: I still think the guy is a fucking dick. it's clear in the show that he has a psyche that's not only paranoid but emotionally obsessive over his partner's actions. that was intentional on the shows part imo though and they played off that character a ton. personally it's what made that show so damn creepy.

 

Holy crap White Bear

Was a big fan of Be Right Back too, but that was next level. As good as any episode of television I've seen

 

I was really hoping there'd be a release date at the end of that trailer

 

Weird gut feeling that this is gonna drop on Friday.

I know Netflix was teasing a surprise drop for The Punisher before the Vegas shooting happened so it's something they're open to. Trailer for an episode yesterday, trailer for an episode today. Probably gonna do a trailer a day until they drop every episode on Friday.

Or maybe I just really want more of this show and am trying to convince myself it's soon

 

I could see that. A few months back, they said they were shooting for a December release date.

 

My friend has seen all the new episodes so if Netflix is distributing to people I would assume it's coming out soon

 

A surprise drop on Friday would be amazing.

 

Just saw on Twitter that critics have received screeners for the season but the review embargo doesn't lift until the 4th, which wouldn't make sense if the season is dropping on the 1st. S2 of The Crown comes out on the 8th so I doubt Netflix would release Black Mirror on the same day. The 15th doesn't have anything major. Maybe the trailers are building to a release date announcement of the 15th?

 

This makes way more sense.