Accountability in Music • Page 349

Is MEB at the end of that username for Mind Equals Blown lol?

 

Sorry but Slam Dunk is nowhere near Warped Tour's level of shitty. It doesn't even come close.

It has issues for sure, them inviting Moose Blood on as third from top under Jimmy Eat World in 2017 was a shit move (something Riot Fest also did), but in respect to some of the other points, honestly find me a UK based festival where there aren't drunk minors, that's kind of just how it goes over here. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, just saying it's more an issue with British culture than Slam Dunk...

By contrast Warped Tour is a shitshow with people like Ronnie Radke, Fronz, that dickhead from Emmure, FPS, etc, all getting free passes, with multiple accounts of harrassment and abuse happening at the festival, and is run by fucking Kevin Lyman.

 

I would say that for the most part, no band is ideologically pure. Concessions will be made to survive in an industry that is fairly rotten inside and out. No one is ever going to be 100% perfect, but taking some stands is better than none at all.

For instance, La Dispute is near and dear to my heart as a Michigan native. I feel that they've done an incredible job of keeping their ethics front and center. They refused to play Warped from the beginning due to the issues with the festival, consistently bring out diverse support bands, donate to various charities and work to spotlight and give a platform to under privileged people in their hometown community. I'm sure we could pick apart every choice they've ever made and find something to be unhappy about, but overall, they're doing what a lot of bands actively refuse to do.

 

At least if Fronz resurrects Warped Tour it'll finally be upfront about how toxic and shitty it truly is

 

Yeah but just because he says "suck my fuck" and drops casual f** bombs and is an adulterer who didn't want to pay alimony who built a career on exploitation and being a bully doesn't make him a bad person.... /s

 

turns out nothing makes anyone a ~bad person~ if you vaguely like what they create

 

Yeah, and that guy used to be a writer for Alternative Press.

 

as a former writer for Alternative Press myself

lol

 

The drummer of Palaye Royale has an interesting (bad) opinion on voting in elections...

 

That's real stupid because even if he was right the most you would lose is what? A couple hours. What an entitled loser.

 

Tiny Engines are such cowards. Pendant and specifically Pendant getting shafted in terms of promo the week their album comes out because TE ran and hid rather than do anything for them in the midst of it coming out that they've fucked over Adult Mom. They have a duty as Chris's label to promote his record they're not upholding because of how bad they've been made look through their own faults and mishandling of a bad situation. It's all so fucked.

 

That is horrible. Also could be another breach of contract depending on what their contract says about promotion responsibilities?

 

So I preordered Somos' new record through Tiny Engines, but given how Phil has passed away and that this band truly deserves support is it better to keep the preorder? I just don't want to hurt artists that deserve my money but I'm not sure how to go about this. Input appreciated.

 

Do what feels right to you, there’s really no right or wrong answer for this type of situation.

 

Weren't all the funds from that album going to a charity or something after they covered Phil's expenses?

 

It might have just been the digital download, that's why they released it early.

 

All proceeds from the digital prerelease after paying for Phil's funeral were supposed to be donated to the Heather Heyer Fund (can't remember if that's the actual name), the woman murdered during the Charlottesville protest. I'm not sure if physical order monies were being donated as well. Plus with how everything has been going, who knows if the money has gotten or will even get there. So fucked.

 

that money was paid through the band’s Bandcamp so I’m not sure TE had anything to do with it

 

Huh, seems like it actually is pretty easy to do the right thing. Weird.

 

Also I've never even heard of this band Hopper Pond but apparently they're from the same part of NJ where I grew up so that's just great.

 

Labour kinda just showing off this election. God I hope they win.

 

I know he posted in the wrong thread too, but Phill isn’t gonna come close to the likes I got on my Pokémon mispost.