Accountability in Music • Page 312

Warped Tour Had to End Because Punk Is Dead

Fuck Kevin Lyman.

 

Rest in piss, Warped

 

Andrew, after the screenshot above was posted on Facebook the reviews section from The Bunny The Bear was deleted (or maybe set inactive, I don't know) and people in the comments thread are posting their reviews and a message from Facebook that some of the posts were reported for "harassment and bullying". The only part of that definition per Facebook that even fractionally makes sense is "degrading someones character" and if one is reporting a credible first-person account of someone's abusive behavior that's not being "degrading" it's being critical.

Just worth noting this is another example of how social media accounts like these can be helpful but also can be manipulated, and people who are interested in reading more accounts of this band's abusive behavior should check out that thread.

 

Tell me again how abuse allegations ruin men's careers.

 

You almost have to hand it to him re: the sheer shamelessness of it all, just the total lack of anything resembling remorse or contrition.

Maybe he’ll get another glowing puff piece in Pitchfork too.

 

Fuck ESH, fuck his enabler bandmates, fuck whoever's still touring with him

 

Sorry to derail for a second, but does anyone know why Instagram posts in the forum come up as “may have been deleted or be from a private account” for me? It happens with all of them, and I’m not smart enough phone wise to figure it out. I’m kind of over having to ask every time who a post is regarding. But who is that post from?

 

Pinegrove. Instagram posts display properly for me on desktop usually!

 

Maybe I just have to deal with that on mobile. But ugh, I am really over Pinegrove and it’s be great if they went away.

 

Any bets on how long before we see "Pinegrove - LP3 (TBA)" pop up in the Music forum?

Bonus points for guessing who creates it.

 

that part isn’t too difficult

 

this feels unnecessary

 

Honestly I'm fully sick of seeing these threads for abusers created and populated and constantly bumped in anticipation for new music so forgive me for expressing my frustration through humor

 

I mean, you’re talking to a survivor rn, I understand your frustration but maybe take the condescension down a notch pls

 

I'm sorry if my joke came across as condescending, that wasn't my intention.

 

your joke wasn’t what came across as condescending, the “forgive me for....” did

 

Oh, no that was sincere. I understand that the joke was probably unnecessary, you're right about that, but I can't help it at this point. Sorry the proper tone didn't come across via text.

 

Why don't y'all just ban pinegrove threads

 

It can't be worse than the Tool thread at least

 

None of us are mods

 

idk the last Pinegrove thread was pretty brutal

 

Shockingly, the last Pinegrove thread got arguably uglier than the Tool thread

 

Glad I didn't see that