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Accountability in Music • Page 292

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

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  2. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    Well, given that he has withheld royalties from songwriters, written people out of contracts behind their back, (attempted to?) sleep with girlfriends of the bands opening for him, and been sued multiple times for millions of dollars, he’s a shitty person top to bottom.
     
  3. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Someone on Twitter claims that Kurt Cobain was really a (trans) woman who killed himself because of transphobia. I feel like this whole thread goes here. I don't think it's fair to assign someone a gender without them speaking out on it, personally.

     
  4. soundclash

    Regular

    This wasn’t a great take, to say the least, but that person is really getting dragged on Twitter and Facebook and that’s a shame. They’re obviously really struggling and everyone’s just piling on.
     
  5. maryp1603

    Hey. Supporter

    I don’t think we should be sharing posts about someone’s supposed gender identity when that person cannot speak to them. No one should ever discuss someone’s gender without express permission.

    Posting things like this just allows for speculation and dialogue that isn’t wanted or needed.

    Let Kurt rest and ignore the tweeter’s need for attention.
     
  6. Jesus Christ can we go like 3 weeks without a new Kurt Cobain conspiracy theory. Let the poor guy rest.
     
  7. nohandstoholdonto

    problem addict Prestigious

    I mean, this theory isn’t really new. It’s def something I’ve seen before from other sources, and something I’d even independently (and privately, which I think is important to note lol) pondered myself. I think speculation, while maybe not the greatest look in the world, is relatively harmless in this scenario; however the extent to which that person is taking it is very toxic. I also think bringing attention to it is unnecessary tho tbh and we should just let it die for a lot of reasons.
     
  8. There are a lot of people who will have historically struggled with their assigned gender - and for a lot of reasons, either didn't exist in a space where they could talk about it or are no longer here to tell anyone.

    I don't think it's harmful for people to privately ponder things like this, because what happens in our own brains (and only in our own brains) is ours. Trying to police that is a fool's errand. But externalizing that and declaring someone else's gender when there is no first-person source and never will be? Is... not something I feel anyone should feel comfortable or entitled to do.
     
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  9. Stephen Young

    Regular Prestigious

    Kurt also has a daughter who on top of dealing with her father's suicide has had to suffer through decades of conspiracy theories about which famous person apparently was responsible for killing her father- including her own mother. For that reason I don't think the trans angle is very responsible to discuss.
     
  10. maryp1603

    Hey. Supporter

    @ItsAndrew maybe delete your post and lesson learned?
     
  11. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter


    found this tweet waaay down in those replies as a RT from January of this year, and she goes on in the replies to say she knows a survivor of his abuse
     
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  12. bobby_runs

    where would i be if i was my brain Prestigious

    So I went down the family trio band wormhole. Saw the lead singer is married to someone who she met on WT when she was underage. So this family already set the precedent for the gross behavior.
     
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  13. tyramail

    Trusted Supporter

    He’s 29 and she’s 22 and they were rumored to be dating in 2013 and it was made publicly official in 2016. So yeah, gross precedent.
     
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  14. Blainer93

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  15. 333 GANG

    Trusted

    Just launch him into the fucking sun already
     
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  16. I will never understand why it's allowed to be called prostitution when a minor can't legally consent to that. It's rape. It's just rape.

    And if anyone "explains" this to me, I'll launch THEM into the sun because the fact that there's a legal reason for the distinction IS WHAT I'M UPSET ABOUT.
     
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  17. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Yeeeah thats def a victim of CSEC and it should be referred to as such
     
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  18. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum


    so that's what 4 abusers (Tyga, Chris, Baka, and Gucci Mane )
     
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  19. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    Drake is such trash. Consistent support for abusers and groping/creeping on minors. And yet he gets the biggest pass, especially from people on this site.
     
  20. atlas

    Trusted



    First guy in a band in this scene that has openly rebuked Tim Lambesis
     
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  21. Jake W

    oh my god, I'm back on my bullshit Prestigious

     
  22. Jake W

    oh my god, I'm back on my bullshit Prestigious



    Yes more please
     
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  23. ABOUT TIME!
     
  24. K0ta

    wrap yourself in petals for armor.

    If I have to hear one more time about rehabilitation and how people deserve forgiveness...jesus fucking christ, just say you don't give a fuck about survivors and want to justify listening to their music!!
     
  25. Jake W

    oh my god, I'm back on my bullshit Prestigious

    The whole Christian forgiveness thing is ridiculous too. These people wouldn't be forgiving if he was Muslim or Athirst it makes me sick
     
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