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Accountability in Entertainment • Page 427

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by OhTheWater, May 11, 2016.

  1. ItsAndrew

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    I can delete if it’s not relevant but we’ve posted about actors complaining about trigger warnings in the past and no one had any issue *shrug*
     
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  2. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    We had them! They were called ratings and they had descriptions.
     
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  3. ItsAndrew

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    My post had one reply to it until recently and probably wouldn’t have gotten much other attention but now there’s a bunch of posts about whether it belongs or not which…idk if that’s what you believe and want to say, sure, but I feel like that just derailing the thread even further (just my two cents)
     
  4. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    How dare a thread be derailed on chorus dot fm
     
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  5. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    To bring it back on topic:

    I don’t think is an accountability issue. I don’t think anyone is being harmed by these performer’s comments. I don’t know how these people would possibly be held accountable for what they’ve said.

    Are you proposing a boycott? Are we going to actually fire a cannon at Matt Smith?

    I think those quotes are nothing but clickbait outrage nonsense and you’re contributing to that by sharing it @ItsAndrew
     
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  6. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    I am not The Threadkeeper and I don’t know what’s been posted without issue before but this is what I am saying now
     
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  7. GrantCloud

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  8. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

  9. Shakriel

    I wanna feel like I feel when I'm asleep. Prestigious

    Josh is feeling spicy tonight
     
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  10. This thread is not for "holding people accountable" lol literally none of us have the power to do that. It's to discuss accountability issues. Trigger warnings are definitely a sensitive issue that is adjacent to accountability and I'm not sure where else you'd post it. I think it's perfectly worthy of discussion here and fwiw Smith's viewpoint seems very reductive and privileged. It is okay to feel uncomfortable, but that's not what we're talking about when we warn an SA survivor that the media they're about to consume might trigger some obvious mental distress for them. If you can't see why that mindset isn't great/is worth discussing, I don't know what to tell you
     
  11. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    If it makes you think “they probably shouldn’t have said or done that” seems like it’s fine to post in here. Matt Smith could probably learn from the reaction to him calling people who want trigger warnings soft. That seems like it’s worth posting. It’s not outrageous and doesn’t rise to level of like beating your wife and kids on an airplane but the reality is Brad Pitt isn’t held accountable for that anyway so I think we just post in here to learn and make our own decisions on who we support or how we feel about things
     
  12. JoshIsMediocre

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    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with what he said!
     
  13. Victor Eremita

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    Other people do though!
     
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  14. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    Is there a thread where I can attempt to hold them accountable?
     
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  15. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    Ok fine I’m certainly overreacting but I truly think anyone upset about that guy’s comments needs to grow up
     
  16. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    I think you have to make friends with a moderator and get them to hit the ban button on those you don’t like
     
  17. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Idk how a trigger warning is any different than a movie rating that says nudity, violence, etc. that doesn't spoil the film and I feel like a trigger warning isn't that far a leap from that
     
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  18. Victor Eremita

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    After reading the article even though I don’t agree with Smith, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with what he said. He seemed to just be talking about spoiling content and impacting the viewer experience. And I kinda get that. I would rather go into a random scary episode of Dr who blind. But at the same time, having a kid who gets scared and has nightmares, I would appreciate the warning. still, it doesn’t seem like he meant it like the other people calling people who want trigger warnings soft.
     
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  19. C'mon man. You're not usually like this so idk what is deal with but this isn't the thread for this kind of comment. If you don't like people discussing a comment you disagree with, you can just ignore it instead of being condescending.
     
  20. Penlab

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    I read through that first article from NME and it's kind of... I feel like he's really missing the point behind the trigger warnings.

    He uses an example of watching horror movies when he was too young to be watching them, and I've had that experience too, and hey, my favorite cartoons growing up were the ones that didn't treat me like an idiot and gave me emotional, complicated storylines that I can still enjoy and appreciate today.

    But that's not what trigger warnings are for and I think if anything, he's in dire need of some education.
     
  21. People who don't need trigger warnings often misunderstand their purpose and take for granted the fact that they don't need them, imo.
     
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  22. cybele Sep 2, 2024
    (Last edited: Sep 5, 2024)
    cybele

    set our hearts ablaze

    I work at a movie theater as a ticket taker and for Blink Twice we have had an actual printed trigger warning posted. (the warning was provided by the filmmakers, not our theater)

    Most people read it, shrug, and move on with their life. No one that I have seen has read it and walked away. I have had a couple of interactions where people roll their eyes.

    But as someone who was considering seeing this in theaters and is extremely sensitive to that type of content I am so thankful for the extra warning. I would not be able to handle that in an immersive theater setting. So I'm waiting to see it at home, even if I see it at all.

    Meanwhile, I explained it to one customer as such: if it can help one person then I think it's a good thing.

    Not really looking to have a conversation on this subject but I just wanted to add my perspective.
     
  23. phaynes12

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    it seems josh was being spicy for the purpose of being spicy but i do agree somewhat that when 95% of this thread is “jeez this celeb is kind of being annoying right now” it just seems sort of pointless or goofy when there’s the 5% of topics being discussed in here, rightfully so, that are very serious

    this thread probably would be derailed infinitely less if there was a separate thread to post context-less screenshots of articles linked from X dot com about a celeb where they’re being a bit of a prick
     
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  24. Penlab

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    Or conversely, this.

    Like, who is defining what an "accountability issue" is anyway? Who is in charge of that? No one. No one can decide on what that means, or what it's supposed to mean, or what it doesn't mean.

    So if someone thinks something is worth bringing up, maybe the others who don't can just ignore it and not let it weirdly ruin their forum experience, yeah?
     
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  25. Penlab

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    Also, it'd be different if the argument was whether or not the person should be held accountable. Instead the argument is just about whether it should be posted in this thread, which is honestly in my opinion a huge waste of time for everyone involved.