2024-2025 NFL Season II Pink Pony Club Football • Page 1016

Then there are the coaches like Doug Pederson who over performed year one and has been in sharp decline ever since. My point is, unless a coach has been egregiously bad (which Mayo hasn’t) you have to let it play out for more than one year

 

Not every team that fires a coach after one year or after a winning season or who has been largely good, but can’t seem to get his team over the hump is destined to become the Jets

 

Pat’s fire Mayo, Jets rehire Rex Ryan, Dolphins fire McDaniel and the Bills win the division the next 10 years but never win a Super Bowl because of lil Patty

 

The thing with Dan Campbell is that the Lions did start showing some positive signs at the end of his first season. I’m too far removed from the Patriots to know better, but my understanding is that Mayo hasn’t shown those signs

 

I do see your larger point though Beard

 

I said it about a week ago but I think GM is more important at this point for them than the coach, Wolf is probably more important at this point than Mayo if that makes sense

I did see those Wolf comments about Polk I think, and that did kinda seem like maybe there's a disconnect between Mayo and Wolf to a degree

 

Any instance where a team’s GM and HC do not see eye to eye on the plan gives me cause for concern. See: Jags, last year’s Eagles (TBD on if bad habits return next year)

Obviously, they have two different jobs and GMs tend to have more job security, leading to HCs making decisions for the week ahead and GMs making decisions for the future, but there is a middle ground where the two can absolutely come together

 

It reminds me alot of the early Caserio as Texans GM years

difference is they have Drake Maye before the roster is really fleshed out and Mayo is a better coaching prospect than near-retirement Lovie Smith and David Culley

 

Well those Texans teams barely fielded an NFL roster that couldn’t disguise the fact that they were tanking for two straight years and exploited two different head coaches as a result. I think the Pats’ situation is different. At least they had a plan for competence. It just didn’t work out

 

hi

 

don’t think i have a say in the matter

 

Besides QB, this Pats roster is just as dogshit as those Texans teams lol

 

I’ve heard the QB matters a lot. Idk from where though

 

One team drafted a highly-touted rookie QB who has shown some promise while another held their predator QB for a high ransom whole trotting out Davis Mills

Two very different situations if you ask me

 

These were Schefter’s predictions this morning

 

It does! But we’re also talking about a project QB who was always seen as needing time to develop, so with that context, the rosters are about equal

 

Putting away the Xmas decorations today. Blah

 

You can say the rosters are about equal. I’m saying that they had two different plans. The Texans handed out a bunch of one-year deals to veterans who would have been backups on most other teams while the Patriots handed out long-term extensions

Again, the season obviously didn’t go as planned for the Patriots, but I don’t think that means the Patriots shouldn’t have tried to be competent this year in hindsight

 

Imagine drafting Drake Maye and wasting a year or two because he’s supposedly a “project” who needs to develop, but your grand master plan to develop him is to follow the Texans 2021-2022 grand master plan to do so

 

You don’t think they tried to be competent this year with *checks notes* a WR named Booty and no semblance of an offensive line? Thats on the GM, not the coach

 

I can’t believe I’m out here defending a Pats coach. I need to take a long hot shower

 

Ben Johnson will be in demand, but he might not want to leave Detroit

Gonna be hilarious if he stays again

 

They also prioritized bringing back Onwenu who, by all accounts, was considered a good player and one of the best impending free agent offensive linemen last year. One man doesn’t make an OL and I can’t speak to the quality of the other players, but I would rather have at least one good offensive lineman than none! They also took a couple swings at WRs in the draft and they missed. Oh well, that’s the draft for ya.

 

If the Pats want to can Wolf, they certainly can do so. It’s not like he did a good job either. I just don’t see what the benefit is to keeping Mayo aside from wanting consistency for Maye. “Maybe he’ll develop into a good coach!” Maybe he won’t!