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2018-2019 NFL Season Thread Football • Page 351

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Max_123, Feb 5, 2018.

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  1. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    Considering I can take one minute and find a quote of him saying saying white privilege exists is "reprehensible" and racist, I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit here.

    I wasn't familiar with him before but after a brief moment of reading, defending him is a REAL BAD look here.
     
  2. CobraKidJon

    Fun must be always. Prestigious

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  3. a nice person

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    Not getting into politics any further since it seems anyone to the right of Marx here is racist and an overall terrible person.
     
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  4. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    No, anyone who makes a career off attacking "political correctness"* is a jackass and a terrible person lol.

    And jumping in with this post is a MUCH worse look.

    *code for having respect for people
     
  5. Owlex

    free snewt Prestigious

    My brother works at a restaurant in Cinci that Dalton occasionally comes to, and has said really nice things about him/the work he does for the city.

    Also his friends clap when he picks up the bill, which is pretty funny
     
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  6. a nice person

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    I know it’s a bad look here. Because, like I said, the vibe here is pretty far left. That’s fine. But I’d like people who don’t know anything about JBP to understand that charges of racism are based solely on his views of certain left wing ideas and not on any quote about POC.
     
  7. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    They're based solely on ideas that are ignorant and supportive of racism so naturally people call these views ignorant and supportive of racism.
     
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  8. GreatBeardRecs

    Vibes Are Dead Supporter



    I have a feeling he’s going to be awesome with deshaun
     
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  9. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    He's a PERFECT receiver for you guys hahaha. I was talking shit about him all draft season until the second you guys drafted him and now he's a problem for me.
     
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  10. a nice person

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    Got it. He’s a racist because he thinks that the idea of white privilege is an oversimplified concept that often hurts the very people it purports to help. I do apologize for my moderate-ness here.
     
  11. Nowhere ... or with like one google search:

    “The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.”

    Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”.

    White privilege is “a Marxist lie”.

    Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”.
     
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  12. What are you defending this guy? He's truly awful. You should read this.
     
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  13. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    His politics are racism. He actively rejects human rights platforms because he misdiagnoses the issue as not systemic, but individual. His entire philosophical and political argument for inequality is based on his beliefs in biology and the behaviors of the individual marginalized communities, rather than the institutions they operate within. He is a bigot who rose to prominence entirely because he opposed more inclusive language at his school and has consistently made his name trumpeting against those who fight for human rights while spouting off generic self-help platitudes that people can find anywhere, the only reason his generic self-help platitudes took off so much is because he tinges it with white male identity politics where he assures his audience that straight white men are the true victims of our current cultural climate. When you follow that thread, it leads to the most vile of humanity.

    Pro tip: If your politics steer close enough to white nationalists that you have to consistently tell people that you aren't actually a white nationalist yourself, reconsider your politics (particularly when you consistently rub elbows with racists)
     


  14. Still the greatest self-own I've ever seen.
     
  15. a nice person

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    So his ideas about oppression of women in history, islamophobia, white privilege, and gender identity are the proof that he’s racist? They are only proof that he thinks very differently than the modern Left. I get it. To someone that holds very left-wing views, JBP is certainly not an ally. To moderate or conservative people, he may or may not seem rational depending on the subject he is speaking about. I honestly don’t think he’s racist. He has seemed to help a lot of people understand psychology better and get their life straightened out. I’m more than happy to read any pieces about him. And I’m also more than happy to let this thread go back to discussing the NFL.
     
  16. Yes.
     
  17. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    How did this actually get said.

    "So his bigoted views make him a bigot?"

    Like...yeah, they do lol
     
  18. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    Also, stop assigning morals to a political spectrum. If your ideology is in conflict with having basic respect for people, then you need to reassess what you believe in.
     
  19. Bigoted conservatives don’t think he’s bad so :shrug: is a pretty depressing take
     
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  20. a nice person

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    It got said because for some reason, the words sexist, racist, islamophobic, transphobic are being used interchangeably. If, from your perspective, he is 3 of those things, he’s definitely also the fourth one too? Ok.
     
  21. No he’s the fourth cause of his racist stupid words. You can’t ignore his racist views on “white privilege” and pretend it doesn’t exist. Also, its not a long jump from Islamaphobic comments and racism, his speeches on the topic are usually both.
     
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  22. a nice person

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    That’s your logic, not mine. Conservatism TO YOU is a reprehensible set of ideas. I never said that conservatives/moderates are inherently guilty of those things. I said that from a certain left-wing viewpoint, he is not an ally. You’re assuming that I conceded the “sexist, bigot, homophobe” allegations against him. I just don’t particularly want to play 1-on-20 clarifying some of JBP’s viewpoints.
     
  23. No. Conservativism is a reprehensible set of ideas because of the results of those ideas.

    lol. What the fuck is wrong with you?
     
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  24. “I didn’t concede the bigots a bigot gotcha!”
     
  25. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter



    keep stumping for this dipshit
     
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