Warped Tour 2017 Predicted Lineup Tour • Page 148

I actually really enjoy this lineup and there's a lot of great acts we can interview all wrapped up in one day. Warped is usually our Super Bowl lol. I think last year we pumped out 10-12 interviews. It was quite hectic.

 

So because Attila is on the tour means you shouldn't go out and support War On Women and all these other bands with female members?

 

I can support bands I care about in other ways than attending a festival that gives a band that uses slurs to various demographics a massive platform.

 

awesome! thank you! i'll check this out

 

Fair enough. To each their own.

 

It's very easy to send money to bands and have it all go to them ... hell, just buy their shit.

 

The amount of "good" outweighs the "bad" exponentially. I'm financially supporting the dozens of hardworking bands I love and some of which I might not get the opportunity to see/support otherwise. I do understand where you're coming from and I get why you don't want to attend, that's cool.

All I'm saying is that I'm going to go and enjoy supporting bands and nonprofits that do good.

 

Yeah let me go to a festival that has a band on main stage that has lyrics that demean women and the LGBTQ+ community, another band on main stage that has multiple members that were involved in trying to solicit naked pictures from an underage girl and kicked one member out so people forgot about it and moved on (also including a member who turned national woman's day into a "meninism" statement through his tweets), a festival that gave a known sexual predator a platform last year to "help his mental state", another band on main stage that said girls are sluts based on how they dressed basically every day on one of their previous runs of the tour, among other bands, to support a smaller band that actually stands up for what I believe in.

TL;DR - if you go to Warped to support the bands that stand up for something, the bands that are problematic and the festival that gives them the platform profits WAY more than a band like War on Women ever would with your dollars.

 

Remember when Kevin Lyman told women who were abused to just "go to the police" and then put Front Porch Step on the tour again?

 

People do realize that Attila isn't supposed to be taken seriously right? The fact that they get a rise out of you guys is exactly feeding into the non-serious nature they've approached with the band. And please don't spin it to be that I'm advocating for degrading women, because that is the furthest thing from the truth. And as far as using the c-word in music, I think people need to go back and listen to some of the founding punk rock bands that formed this scene and are known as legacy bands now (spoiler alert: they use the c-word too).

 

There's no question there has been MANY missteps on Warped over the years. This whole conversation stemmed from the fact that it seems no matter what happens, someone will have something to complain about.

A few pages back a few of us were talking about how great it is to finally see female fronted bands properly represented. That spurned comments about how it's "too little too late" and that "the lineup is weak now". People can't mind up their minds.

You're right in many ways here, and I agree with almost all them. To go back to what I said before, unfortunately some of the money I'll spend at the tour will go towards bands I don't support. Yet, 90% of it will go towards bands and organizations I do. That's enough to sell me the ticket.

 

1. Defending people that do horrible things with "it's not supposed to be taken seriously" doesn't negate the horrible things they do, it reinforces that "it's just a joke," or "they're trolling," are viable defenses for bigotry. They're not.

2. The use of horrible sexist language in the past is no defense of its usage in the present. It's disturbing this isn't common sense.

 

What's the % this year? What's the % compared to the number of dates they're all on? I haven't seen the math for any of that. It seems better than the past, but it still doesn't scream "properly represented" to me.

 

"Hey we're Attila, you're all a bunch of (insert various slurs here), HAH just kidding we got you there! We can get away with it because you're not supposed to take us seriously!!"

Do you realize how ignorant / stupid that sounds

 

That's a good question, someone should crunch some numbers. There was an article posted a few pages back about the 2014 tour and how terribly low the % of females on the tour was.

Any volunteers?

As a whole, I feel like female band members aren't "properly represented" in the scene well enough to begin with. This is a bigger issue than just Warped Tour.

 

Can't we all just get along?

 

No need to bother. It could be 50% and it still wouldn't be acceptable for some people.

 

I wish Twilight Creeps were playing my date. I checked them out after the announcement and I dig it. Some slight Bayside influence on a couple tracks.

 

Well, this is pretty clearly about what I said in here last night. For the record, I went to the Warped Tour every year from 2010-2016, so no, that's not the case.

Adding more bands with women to a festival that's still giving a huge guarantee to Fronz and the dumbass singer from Memphis May Fire doesn't not count as a "win." Putting Neck Deep on a festival that appeals to young girls is also pretty vile, especially after the FPS fallout in 2015. I'll give Kevin credit when he fundamentally changes the culture of his festival which is currently overrun all kinds of toxicity.

If you want to go to Warped Tour, go right ahead. I couldn't care less. I'm criticizing Kevin for the choices he's made, not your decision to go to the festival.

 

50% would be "acceptable" to me.

 

While that may be true, I think we need to look at this objectively. A study on this would be a really interesting and enlightening read, instead of all of us just whining on here haha.

 

Is this feasible in any way? Are there even enough bands in the scene with female members to make this happen?

Sadly the reality is the frequency we see female members in bands, especially in this scene, is very, very low.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post.

 

And the number will stay low with people with opinions like these in this thread. The scene is toxic and people that are the farthest things from the victims in the scenario act like they are the ones being attacked.

 

the new Carousel Kings album is good

 

I could put together a very good scene festival with more than 50% of the bands not being CIS white males for sure.