Invasion of Ukraine • Page 172

This article is dumb because it uncritically repeats the Ukrainian nationalist myth of the "Holodomor". There was a famine in Ukraine in 1932-33, but it was not orchestrated or intentional, as modern scholarship has demonstrated irrefutably (see the works of R.W. Davies, Stephen G. Wheatcroft, Mark Tauger, J. Arch Getty, Stephen Kotkin, etc). The Holodomor narrative is still pushed by the West today to suit its geopolitical objectives.

 

Hmmm..while it isn’t as heavily debated as before, it does appear that it was most likely just the usual incompetence involved with Stalin. This incompetence being that he ordered to seal Ukraine’s borders, confiscate food supplies, and increase grain quotas despite widespread starvation

 

It was a range of factors. R.W. Davies and Stephen G. Wheatcroft write about the primacy of the weather conditions which is often ignored: “in 1930-1934 the weather was poorer than usual over the five years, with particularly bad conditions in 1931 and 1932. This was a factor over which the Soviet government had no immediate control.” (from their book The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931-1933) This, combined with resistance from wealthier peasants who chose to burn their crops and slaughter their animals instead of going along with collectivisation, and the mistakes made by the government during the process, resulted in the famine. But there was no “terror-famine” or “Holodomor”.

 

it depends on what you mean by “support”….like I’m not gonna go around wishing US soldiers die lol, but if the U.S. invaded Mexico tomorrow, I’d fully support Mexico’s right to fight back against us. I don’t know what you mean about out discussions about Hamas, I don’t think I’ve said I don’t support them fighting back against Israel, I said we don’t have to cheerlead when they do what amounts to a terror atteck because that’s a dumb way to get people to side with the Palestinian cause here. Like if we were dominating Mexico the way Israel has to Palestine for years, and Mexico one day crossed the border and killed a thousand Californians or Texans or whatever, i wouldn’t go around saying I’m glad they’re dead they deserved it colonizers etc lol, because at the very least, I’d find that to be poisoning the well of me trying to get my more moderate friends and acquaintances to understand why Mexico would have felt the need to do that in the first place and understand that if we want
To prevent that from happening we’d have to change our policies and etc.

But whether it’s in Ukraine or Kuwait or anywhere else, yeah I support speaking out in support or against it because I’m talking about what we can do as American citizens haha. As an American citizen I’m speaking out here saying hey it’s a good thing we’re helping Ukraine, they don’t deserve to be wiped off the map by Russia, and what Russia is doing is bad. Just like I’ll say hey it’s a bad thing we’re giving Israel all of these weapons because they’re doing evil shit right now. Not sure what you mean by “don’t support armed resistance by anyone but the U.S.”, I’d support anyone helping Ukraine right now even if it wasn’t us, I generally supported Armenia more in their most recent clash with Azerbaijan, though admittedly only knew the relative surface of the conflict, etc.

 

You cannot have the Good War without the Bad War

 

Yes but war and conflicts continue to happen and I would like our country to do the right thing make often and the wrong thing less often

 

but right and wrong do not factor at all into the decision making about the US' involvement in war and conflict. it's all about empire. I don't know how you can look at the two major conflicts the US is currently involved in, not to mention uhh history, and come to any different conclusion

 

Yes to change that we need better policy makers in office, but in the interim, I would like the actions we take to be on the right side of things more often then the wrong side of things. Helping Ukraine fight off an invader is the right thing to do, even if our govt isn’t doing it for the right reasons

 

Every policymaker in the US supports empire and always will

 

Never underestimate the Swiss drive to remain neutral

 

If you had your own way, what would be the ideal peace deal scenario? A DMZ-like line between the Ukrainian land Russia currently holds and the rest of Ukraine? If so, is barbed wire or a wall put up? Is there an international force put there to patrol the border? Then, does Russia have to give back all the Ukrainian children they stole? Are all sanctions lifted, or are they kept in place? Only some sanctions? If so, which ones kept and which ones lifted? Force Russia to pay any reparations? Is Ukraine allowed to join the EU and NATO? Is Ukraine allowed to build up their military going forward? Is Ukraine allowed to have any international forces stationed in Ukraine? Etc

 

I've never supported the expansion of NATO, the escalatory approach the West has taken to the current war in Ukraine, etc. You've supported all of these things. We're living in your world. Now that the approach you've supported has got us to this point, are you able to suggest a way out of it? Or do you genuinely just support continued escalation and if so how do you see this conflict ending? Ukrainians will not regain control of all their territory by force. It seems inevitable that Ukraine will have to accept at least the temporary loss of land that Russia already holds.

In my view, the ideal peace scenario is long gone now. After more than two years of war, Ukraine's negotiating position has deteriorated significantly. Ukraine will have to make concessions to bring this conflict to an end. This is a war that Ukraine cannot win, and there will have to be some kind of settlement at some stage, whether that's now or in the future after more death and destruction. Better that it happens sooner rather than later as things will only get worse and worse for Ukraine imo. Ukraine and its backers, mainly the US, should take steps to prepare the ground for talks. Whatever the final settlement is, obviously it will need to include Ukraine becoming a permanently neutral state in the sense that any aspiration for NATO membership will have to be abandoned.

 

The Trump Whisperer

 

in my opinion, Joe Biden truly went with possibly the worst of all options approach in that it was absolutely going to be seen as escalatory by Russia every step of the way while also not actually helping Ukraine gain the ability to push Russia out of their territory, which was something the US could have done quickly & decisively right after the full scale invasion. his approach seems engineered to cause the maximum amount of death, destruction & suffering for every person inside Ukraine while also giving them absolutely no actual chance at pushing Russia back to Feb 22 lines (short of the remote chance that the Russians would all just toss their weapons down and run away, which was never going to happen here, but there is always the outside chance with every fighting force)

if we all end up getting out of this mess without getting nuked into oblivion, I think Europe needs to take a long, hard look at their collective security situation and make some difficult decisions - I can understand wanting to be part of NATO and under the United States' nuclear umbrella simply out of fear, but it is becoming increasingly untenable and makes less and less sense examined from any other perspective

 

tbf, we’re where we’re at because the ruler of Russia is a barbaric invader and thinks that’s the solution to geopolitical issues.

 

I think Biden was a bit hesitant to go full bore early on for a variety of reasons

 

China unnerved by Russia’s growing ties with North Korea, claims US official

“In some of the discussions we have had it seems we are informing them of things that they were unaware of with regard to DPRK pursuits, and they are concerned that Russian encouragement might lead the DPRK to contemplate either actions or military actions that might not be in China’s interests.

China has not weighed in directly to criticise Russia but we do believe that the increasing coordination between Pyongyang and Moscow is unnerving them.“

Plausible, but consider it hearsay for now

 

Discussions over sending European troops to Ukraine reignited

 

“A Ukrainian victory will serve as the most effective deterrent to future aggression”
- Tsai Ying-wen

 

Fix aging infrastructure? Nah, lets invade another country and intentionally murder civilians instead

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