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Jazz Genre • Page 7

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Wharf Rat, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. Rudy Van Gelder died today, unquestionably the greatest and most important producer in jazz history
     
  2. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    As a neophyte I didn't know his name, but upon reading up, holy shit
     
  3. Great way to find classics you didn't know existed is to search "Rudy Van Gelder Edition" on spotify
     
  4. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Haha did he remix them?
     
  5. Yep. Altho now that I think on it I think it's mostly pretty well known albums
     
  6. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Holy fucking shit, Miles' Porgy and Bess. What an astounding album.
     
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    cshadows2887

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    Cannot get down with Out to Lunch. The first song sounds like someone murdering a Turkey. "Gazzeloni" is prettt decent but the rest really isn't for me
     
  8. Idk man. It's honestly self evident to me. It's gripping and affecting, a rhythmic masterclass, and the "weirdness" never seems to be for its own sake. There's passion and purpose and (weird, jagged) feeling throughout. idnno
     
  9. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Oh the playing is incredible. Would never say otherwise. Not just Dolphy but the whole band. But the result is not something I want to listen to.

    I'll always keep trying though.
     
  10. EmmanuelSCastle

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    I am listening to Out to Lunch rn based on the above and it is very very cool and I dig this a lot. This is VERY dynamic music, this is honestly so cool. It's telling a story without the words, almost in the same way as a well done movie score can hold its own if you know the narrative. I enjoy this a lot, it's emotive in a way one doesn't often hear. My jazz listening is fairly slow going, but I like to let things simmer for this kind of music because there is so much going on
     
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  11. Emperor Y

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    Out to Lunch was the album that got me into non-swing / non-Ella and Louis jazz music
     
  12. EmmanuelSCastle

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    I can see how it could be a gateway. I expected it to be a lot weirder than it was but it was still kind of weird
     
  13. teebs41

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    Spent the last 4 days in Nola incredible the music here is phenomenal and I will be jointing in next time I'm here picked up a Dixieland real book plan on learning 30 tunes a year
     
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  14. Tom

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    What instrument?
     
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  15. teebs41

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  16. Reading a lot about Mingus for this paper.....the dude was incredible. Not in like a "wow he's so great" way (that way too) but in a "what the fuck is this dude talking about or doing half the time" way. His autobiography was originally a 900 pager. And its like 90% about how he fucked a lot. Which sounds, like, stupid and self aggrandizing and misogynistic and shit, right? But it also serves as a 300 page metaphor for, in my words, basically, how the music industry fucks you. Also, I guess he was a pimp.

    “To be a pimp, one would have to lose all feelings, all sensitivity, all love. One would have to die! Kill himself! Kill all feeling for others in order to live with himself…Mingus couldn't be this...a pimp.”

    Interpreted by a scholar as: “The problem is that ‘Mingus,’ the great jazz artist-to-be, cannot associate himself with a business that churns ‘all feeling, all sensitivity, all love’ through the commodity-form.”

    Clive James said:

    "Mingus builds an unstable private world in which Jim Crow horrors are compensated for by wild excesses of lust: page after page is alive with tangled bodies writhing in their own juices."

    Also I guess he hated free jazz lol Charles Mingus_AN OPEN LETTER TO THE AVANT-GARDE
     
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  17. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Hated free jazz? I didn't know I could love him more...
     
  18. :chin:
     
  19. Joel

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    girlfriends dad wanted to give me a record from his collection and I told him to hit me with some jazz because I have never delved into this genre and he gave me Monk's Greatest Hits
     
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  20. teebs41

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    I hope it has monks dream on it with Charlie rouses epic tenor solo
     
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  21. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    All the Monk I've heard (admittedly a small sample) is wonderful.
     
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  22. angel paste

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    listened to all of KamaSi Washingtons "The Epic" today at work


    it was intense
     
  23. Tom

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    Saw Pat Methany on Saturday. Incredible.
     
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  24. EmmanuelSCastle

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    My friend is in school for music, he was playing autumn leaves and blue bossa and I enjoyed both a lot. As I understand it, they're both standards, yeah? I downloaded two bill Evans albums a while back, it was nice to see autumn leaves was on it. I enjoy that track in particular a lot. I don't know if this is unique to Evans, but it seems like what he plays has been the most tame stuff I've listened to by a large margin
     
  25. teebs41

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    Yea Evans is very much "cool jazz"