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Sabrina Carpenter - Short n' Sweet (August 23, 2024) Album • Page 12

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Jun 3, 2024.

  1. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I think "Love Story" is pretty different, because she's legitimately rewriting how Romeo & Juliet ends. I think Taylor is actually engaging with the narrative of the play and then doing the audacious thing (changing Shakespeare!) to make it fit with the fairytale vibes she was all about at that point in her career. I don't think "Juno" is really engaging with the story it's referencing in the same way, which probably supports your "it's not that deep" argument, but also I think supports my argument of the song referencing the wrong thing to make the point it wants to make.
     
  2. Fucking Dustin

    So tell me something awesome Supporter

    God I love this website
     
  3. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Lol, I realize this is all trivial, but I do like that there's at least one place where I can have these kinds of insane conversations about pop cultural ephemera. For me, it will ALWAYS be "that deep."
     
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  4. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    I literally know nothing about Juno other than "teen girl gets pregnant from awkward Michael Cera" so maybe that's all Sabrina knows too.
     
  5. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Seems likely.
     
  6. LightWithoutHeat

    If I could just forget it

    Considering she was eight years old when it released, I'm willing to bet that's the case here.
     
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  7. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    I was gonna bring up “Love Story” earlier and chose not to, lol. Mainly because the one is doing it dramatically and the other playfully. But, I agree that it’s a useful comparison.

    Personally, I’ve always interpreted the use of Romeo and Juliet in that song to be in character. Taylor is in class daydreaming about this guy, and she’s using the famous story they’re covering as part of the daydream. As the song’s narrator, she’s oblivious to the way the story ends, and that naïveté is kinda the point.

    I’m inclined to see “Juno” through the same lens. I wouldn’t be surprised if, on her and her songwriters’ end, it was a very shallow “what’s a famous thing where a girl is knocked up” thing, lol. (Like she says in another song, “boy, it’s not that complicated.”) But, if I’m trying to derive meaning (which is fun!), I think it’s easy to interpret it through the same in character, intentionally naive lens. Like, you can read the narrator as horny to the level of being like, gimme a baby! And the fact that she’s so caught up in the boy & the moment that she’s overlooking the baggage of what she’s daydreaming about… could be seen as a feature, not a bug. It’s certainly not that off base (in a broad strokes way) from conversations I’ve had recently with a specific impulsive close friend of mine, lol.
     
  8. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    Also, I agree with this. It’s fun to pick at media that “isn’t that deep” and see what you can pull out, lol. Doing so is, in some ways, itself a creative act.
     
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  9. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

  10. Zilla

    Trusted Supporter

    The POV is actually from JK Simmons’s character wanting to punch that Bleeker kid in the weiner.
     
  11. Zilla

    Trusted Supporter



    I normally hate the “What if ____ covered _____?” But damn this is a good Daryl/Glassjaw.
     
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  12. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    respectfully you could not pay me to click play on that. i don’t need to know what that would sound like.
     
  13. Atticus5143

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    This is how I feel anytime someone posts Alex Melton
     
  14. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    dont know who that is but i agree
     
  15. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    I only like it when it’s in the style of Korn
     
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  16. Lol, I agree with all of you but also...that is a crazy good impression. Lowkey better than the original
     
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  17. Zilla

    Trusted Supporter

    Believe me when I say if anyone else posted it, I would feel the same way. It came across my Reels and this is the only place where anyone might appreciate it.
     
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  18. Immediately threw on Worship and Tribute lol
     
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  19. macbethfan

    Trusted Supporter

    I actually like this guy's covers a lot. Some of his impressions are really spot-on. Plus, he was a Marine and i have a soft spot for being one myself. Not a fan of Alex Melton or others in the same vein, but I like this dude.
     
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  20. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    Did a second playthrough, Juno still my favorite. Manifesting a music video with Elliott Page as the male lead.

    Taste, Good Graces, Slim Pickens, and Don’t Smile also early standouts
     
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  21. "Bad Chem" is the one
     
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  22. LightWithoutHeat

    If I could just forget it

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  23. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Bed Chem is catchy enough, but I do think it’s a little too, uhhh, suggestive on an album full of that.
     
  24. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Are you saying the camaraderie line is bridge to far?!
     
  25. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    lol yeah, definitely the line I was talking about
     
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