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General Politics Discussion (XI) [ARCHIVED] World • Page 1365

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

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  1. David87

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    Jesus Christ
     
  2. St. Nate Aug 21, 2024
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    St. Nate

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    Hamas is the elected govt of the Gaza Strip, a political party, a national resistance movement, and like many political parties and resistance movements under colonialism have an armed wing, called the Al-Qassam brigades. They should be armed as organized colonized and oppressed people, as is their right and their right to attack israel, the colonizer and oppressor, as is the right of all colonized and occupied people. This is also their right by international law, which they cite themselves as justification. They also run medical services, sanitation, tourism, etc. They were birthed out of the 1st intifada also called the Stone Intifada by former Muslim Brotherhood members who were on the fence about actual militant resistance. Prior to this they provided Islamic charity services not unlike Christian charities, though providing social services would continue with Hamas. This reputation would help them win in an election they were also on the fence about joining. In the 2006 election they thought they’d join the parliament as the opposition against Fatah, but ended up winning. I say all this to give context and to say, these are not people who “want war” or don’t care about the lives of Palestinians. Of course they wish the destruction of israel which is good. It should be destroyed. But in being the govt they’ve also had to moderate their stance for the purpose of practicality to accept two states, though still wanting all of Palestine which is their right. These aren’t “radicals” or radical in any pejorative sense. If anything, radical in the positive sense.

    Have you asked yourself, why did they attack? Like did you look it up? Honest question.

    They attacked and took hostages because Gaza has been under siege ever since they’ve taken power by air, sea, and land. The people are being slowly suffocated and when they’re not israel “mows the lawn” like in Operation Cast Lead or Protective Edge causing massive infrastructural damage to a region blockaded and embargoed from sufficient building material among other vital necessities. Their people from Gaza and the West Bank also languish in israeli dungeons, many resistance fighters—freedom fighters, and many just people. Arab counties around them are in normalizing processes with israel leaving the Palestinians, fellow Arabs forgotten. They didn’t “bait.” They don’t “want war.” They don’t want to be forgotten! They want an end to the siege. They want their hostages released. They want the protection that only a state can provide. And if their is a ceasefire and the the colonization of Palestine and Palestinians continue, then yes they or someone will attach again, because they are only defending Palestine and Palestinians.
     
  3. David87

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  4. RyanPm40

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    Yeah he's literally my dad's age lol
     
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  5. Halitosis Jones

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  6. RyanPm40

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    Also, looking that up really made it set in that my dad is close to 60. I gotta call him and make some plans.
     
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  8. clucky

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    * checks to see if Bill is speaking *

    nope just nancy pelosi

    really rolling out the big guns tonight aren't they?
     
  9. Leftandleaving

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  10. neo506

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    she's gonna be better on Gaza though. I was assured in this very thread
     
  11. Victor Eremita

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  12. Halitosis Jones

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    Oh god Kamala's Uber executive brother-in law is up now lol
     
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  13. dylan

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    Why do you people do this to yourselves
     
  14. sophos34

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    It’s insane I’m watching superstore and playing fire emblem
     
  15. Halitosis Jones

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    This dude has lobbied to make it easier for Uber to fuck over drivers. Fuck him.
     
  16. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    Statler and Waldorf having season tickets to the Muppet Show ass nonsense
     
  17. David87

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    Ngl I don't think I knew Harris had a sister so when I would hear about Kamala's BIL (mostly in this thread and still that was like maybe once or twice), I assumed it was Doug's brother or something. So when I heard "Vice President's brother in law, ____" introduced, I looked up and was like...wait, Doug has a black brother? lol
     
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  18. Halitosis Jones

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    God Shapiro sucks so much
     
  19. David87

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    He had to force that "public school" part out lol
     
  20. Halitosis Jones

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    He stinks and is just doing a c-rate Obama speech, but this DNC crowd is going buck wild for this generic watered down horseshit.
     
  21. clucky

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    they really aren't doing Walz any favors with the lineup tonight
     
  22. bigmike

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    Seriously lol. I can’t imagine anything I’d want to do less after work then flip on the fuckin ghouls in the dnc.
     
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  23. Halitosis Jones

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    Libs will love the shittiest 12th grade English class tier poetry if you just tell them "this is actually culturally important"
     
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  24. David87

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    Feels cruel to make Amanda Gorman do this again, there's no way she's topping the inauguration poem lol
     
  25. Halitosis Jones

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