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Say Anything ...Is Committed (May 24th, 2024) • Page 20

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Dog Fish, Oct 13, 2023.

  1. SpeckledSouls

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    Max is a classic example of an idiot
     
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  2. WasEmoRocknowImjustold

    Not newbie, I think Supporter

    As a teacher, if you just really drill reading/writing content skills and grade level math the kids might turn out fine. I just doubt that's happening.
     
  3. Matt Who

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    Weird stance to take, hopefully you’re just pissed off at how Max explains/handles unschooling rather than the actual practice itself, which can and does work just fine (not for everyone, but for some).
     
  4. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Nah all forms of home schooling is detrimental to the child. They need social interaction to learn how to function in a society, and curriculum should be taught by professionals

    I was homeschooled for half of high school due to Lyme disease and it definitely stunted me socially and I lost a lot of studying skills because 504 and IEP plans are a joke. I was allowed to use notes on exams haha
     
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  5. Doomsday

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    I am sure people are able to do versions of homeschooling that incorporate social skills but not fucking Max Bemis

    Not every person is capable of teaching a child
     
  6. Matt Who

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    All of these things can happen in an unschooling or homeschooling setting. I’m not sure what your definition of “professionals” might be in this context, but as somebody who studied education and spent almost 10 years teaching in Montessori schools before deciding to step back and out of it altogether—schools hire teachers all the time who don’t know shit and who are awful with kids. Some schools don’t have set curriculum, or if they do, the teachers aren’t held accountable for teaching by it.

    Any claim like “all forms of homeschooling are detrimental to the child” is just ignorance and bias. Sorry you had a rough go of it, but some people come through just fine, and as stronger advocates for themselves and more independent thinkers and healthier contributors to society than they would’ve had they been stuck in a building from 8-4 every day for 12 years.
     
  7. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    I really don't think the Say Anything Is Committed thread on chorus.fm is a realistic place to have a healthy debate about homeschooling haha

    We can all agree that whatever the fuck Max and Sherri are doing is absolutely wrong though
     
  8. Matt Who

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    Now I remember why I unfollowed this thread.
     
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  9. ItsAndrew May 8, 2024
    (Last edited: May 8, 2024)
    ItsAndrew

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    It’s been shown on their social media before, the kids have no structure whatsoever in their life, so it’s not unreasonable to think the way they are being “schooled” is not good for them. You can have whatever opinion you want on homeschooling or unschooling (I know people it’s worked for and people it definitely did not work for), but as @irthesteve said I think we can all agree whatever Max and Sherri are doing is not right for their children’s educational wellbeing.
     
  10. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    Homeschooling is one thing unschooling or whatever sounds terrible. I would have just played Nintendo 64 for 12 hours a day.
     
  11. WasEmoRocknowImjustold

    Not newbie, I think Supporter

    I will say I never met a homeschool kid that I thought benefitted from it, but I have met about four kids who severely damaged from it.
     
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  12. Zilla

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    There was a person on one of the Say Anything threads who gave a good reason why unschooling works for her kid and it involves their kid being neurodivergent and needing extra care and communication that a school could not offer. That I understand. What the Bemises are describing sounds lazy and potentially harmful to their kid’s upbringing when they’ll eventually deal with a normal society.
     
  13. WasEmoRocknowImjustold

    Not newbie, I think Supporter

    Totally valid. A Mom once hired me to tutor her homeschooled kid. Offered me a bucketload of money. He had to finish a half year's worth of assignments in 10 days. He hadn't done a thing. Seemed like a normal, kind, well put together kid. I asked him what he's been doing, he says he plays Fortnite and he's amazing at it. I turned down the money and left. Kid hadn't done one single bit of schoolwork in months. Wanted me to just do it for him. Just a story lol.
     
  14. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Are they Bemises or Bemii
     
  15. Dog Fish

    Mutt

    “You basically ask a kid what they want to do. It could be ‘I want to go to the park’ or it could be ‘I want to play video games today.’ It could be ‘I don’t know how to get into the door, it’s locked.’ And you just help them.”

    Yep. 28:40 of the podcast.
     
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  16. jesseisabigdeal

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    bemii, help us all.
     
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  17. Dog Fish

    Mutt

    Like…that’s literally what you’re supposed to do for your kids all the fucking time anyway.
     
  18. Zilla

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    Oh yeah. I know/knew so many homeschooled kids whose parents did that for religious reasons and they mostly fucked around at home, got a bad education and were wilder than the night when they got into the real world.
     
  19. ItsAndrew

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    If anyone was at the Columbus show and wanted context on this:

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    and I liked this comment

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  20. sophos34

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    Home schooling should be illegal
     
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  21. Doomsday May 9, 2024
    (Last edited: May 9, 2024)
    Doomsday

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    Max can fuck off forever now, imagine how embarrassed his daughter is gonna feel if she finds out about this, which given their absolute lack of structure she probably has unfiltered access to the internet so it's not a reach to say she can find the comment online. I had pretty unrestricted access to the internet at that age and if my father was remotely famous, I would've Googled him all the time

    "It's not for me to say if an 11-year old girl will get upset at this comment" some fucking people lol
     
  22. Dan O'Neill

    Regular

    Aren’t the kids usually at the show, watching from the side of the stage with Sherri? I’m sure she heard the comment as it happened live.
     
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  23. Doomsday

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    Excellent point I'd forgotten, even worse
     
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  24. MegT585

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    Jesus Christ. This is basically saying welp I gave them their school for the day bc I helped them unlock a door instead of just ignoring them while I vape and lay in bed. These poor kids are going to be so fucked up.
     
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  25. youll be fine

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    She’d prob feel worse reading a bunch of strangers on the internet talking about her for multiple pages