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Oppenheimer (Christopher Nolan, July 21, 2023) Movie • Page 26

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Serh, Oct 8, 2021.

  1. justin.

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    There were 2 moments where the audio was difficult for me to hear but I could hear enough in context to know what was being said.
     
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  2. Marx&Recreation

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    Yes that whole constant thing was very irritating after a certain point. Just about the entire movie carries the same extremely suspenseful tone because of the music being used like that, to the point that it’s actually a good example of why it doesn’t work to really abuse a music score like that.

    It’s as if someone was like “okay the best scenes from all these classic movies all had really loud and intense music playing in them, so if I just use that in every scene then every scene will be great!”
     
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  3. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    also hate to say it cos I'm a fan of his but Benny Safdie is just not good in this, stuck out like a sore thumb. I'm begging him to stop making Kenneth Branagh do other accents too
     
  4. Marx&Recreation Jul 21, 2023
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    Marx&Recreation

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    There were a couple times where the score was clearly meant to drown out the dialogue, but there were definitely multiple scenes beyond that when the music ramped up hard to no particular end to the point that it started overtaking the dialogue that I feel we were clearly supposed to be hearing clearly
     
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  5. FrenzalRob

    34 / Melbourne, Australia Supporter

    I remember the dialogue/score mix being an issue in Tenet, but I had no problem here. Could hear the dialogue just fine, don't get what people are talking about.
     
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  6. youll be fine

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    I don’t think I really missed any of the dialogue because of the music/score
     
  7. youll be fine

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    Aren’t they all ex communist while Jean is still active?
     
  8. justin.

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    One of the best auto complete interviews I’ve watched

     
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  9. Zilla

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    That’s a fair point, but also, it didn’t work for me.
     
  10. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I’m not the biggest fan of how it was done, but I understand its purpose. There often things Nolan does that divides people and it either works for you or it doesn’t. I pretty much always just go with it and it overall will work for me.
     
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  11. chewbacca110

    "I'll chew on a dog!"

     
  12. Marx&Recreation

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    If that was the case then I really don’t feel like the movie did a good job of emphasizing that or making it feel notably distinct from the people who were ex-communists lol. Like as far as the military/govt people go, they seemed to care just as much about his brother or wife’s past affiliations as they did Jean’s
     
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  13. aoftbsten

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    I thought this was really good overall, maybe one of Nolan's best. For a three-hour movie, it moved at a breakneck pace. Though it was exhausting at times, I think it drives home a theme of lack of control and being unable to stop and fully think about the repercussions of the project. I honestly didn't know much about Oppenheimer outside of him leading the Manhattan Project, so the political trial parts of the film were unexpected. I'm going to have to read American Prometheus soon.

    There are plenty of issues though. It may have been an attempt at historical accuracy, but the cast is bloated. Too many names to keep track of and I felt very little connection or understanding to any of them as a result. Though, admittedly this might not be a big issue if I was more well-versed in the history of the Manhattan Project and Oppenheimer's life. Also, and this is just a minor nitpick, the casting was distracting at times. Every five minutes I was briefly pulled out with "What the fuck? So and so is in this too? Who isn't in this?" I kept waiting for Michael Caine and Tom Hardy to show up.

    I think the romance with Jean is important to the red scare investigations explored in the film, but I don't think Nolan really knew what to do with the character and their relationship.

    There are scattered bits of dialogue, particularly near the end, that are trying too hard to tell us the themes and the motivations of the characters, rather than letting the actors and shot composition do the work. I'm not sure I needed RDJ to look at the camera and tell me how he thought Oppenheimer was basking in the limelight.

    Still, I found its examinations of power structures, trust, and fear to be pretty well done overall. Oppenheimer is constantly leaving behind his compassionate nature towards his fellow man in pursuit of a goal that is ultimately the worst thing man has ever created. He goes from a progressive, left-leaning intellectual to end up a tool of right-wing ideas. For all the lead-up conversations about Nolan's conservatively coded work and how this could actually be a pro-bomb movie, this was the biggest surprise to me. The post-Hiroshima rallying propaganda speech was the highlight of the whole thing for me.
     
  14. Marx&Recreation

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    Not actually showing the pictures of any of the victims/damage done to the cities, and instead just showing Oppenheimer reacting to a slideshow of them, was unbelievably disappointing, both politically and artistically.
     
  15. aoftbsten

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    This was a cop-out for sure. Especially with how much focus is put on his very quiet objections to using the bomb against Japan. The anti-bomb and anti-arms race message still works, but some actual portrayal of the devastation and human suffering it caused would have made a more meaningful impact.
     
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  16. jkauf

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    I’ll continue to beat this drum: Good Time aside, Benny ain’t a good actor at all.
     
  17. aoftbsten

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    Yea, that accent Benny put on was pretty rough.
     
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  18. I agree that cast was distracting at times. My brain would be focused on who they are or where I know them from and I'd miss the brief introduction/role of the character.
     
  19. justin. Jul 21, 2023
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    justin.

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    It did feel like a “greatest hits” of sorts but I dig it. For a moment I thought Rami was only going to get a little non-speaking cameo and that felt rough.
     
  20. Zilla

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    Benny is good in “Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret.” He was not great here.
     
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  21. oakhurst

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    Movie was an overall 7/10 for me. I really enjoyed the first 2 1/2 hours, but the last 30 minutes of just going back and forth on the espionage court case lingo got old real fast.
     
  22. fowruok

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    Really enjoyed this, especially the last ninety minutes or so. Like a bunch of other people said, though, I missed some of the dialogue in the first half due to the mixing.

    Nolan did a great job adopting a 700+ page book, and a bunch of the performances here (Downey, Murphy, Blunt) were top-notch.
     
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  23. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    That was such a great movie.

    Saw it in the early afternoon in a showing that was otherwise basically all old women, lol. Good time.
     
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  24. What was great about the cast was that you went from “atoms, protons, physics, war” to “omg is that Hughie from The Boys?” to “world destruction” to “no way that’s Gary Oldman”
     
  25. drewinseries

    Drew

    This was fantastic. A great show of division when politics and science meet. This brought up a lot of my anger early pandemic and still now going on now with science being construed for political purposes