Underoath - Voyeurist (January 14, 2022) Album • Page 15

this just confirms that if underoath ever went cookie cutter hardcore it would still sound better than 90% of what came out when that scene was at its peak

 

idk why I'm only getting around to Pneumonia now but yeah that's their best song in a decade, easily. Honestly didn't know they still had something like that in them. don't know if they took the criticism of Erase Me to heart or just don't give a fuck anymore but either way I'm back in on this album

 

New song out October 27: Cycle featuring Ghostmane.

Heavily considering not listening to anymore songs and trying to hold out for the full album. 3 months away still dang.

 

yeah I just listened to Pneumonia once and am not gonna listen to anything else. Still don't get why they just don't release it digitally with a caveat that physical media won't be available immediately.

 

Because it affects their first week sales if they can't ship the vinyl which are important as to determining which tours they are able to get on, what venues they are going to play, etc. Every band that is delaying their release to wait for the vinyl is doing it for that reason, even if they don't say that's why

 

I’m holding off on listening to Pneumonia and stopped listening to both Excuses and Hallelujah altogether. The record is still a ways away and it’s only 10 tracks. I don’t wanna overplay these tracks months before release ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

That (tours/venues/etc. considerations) makes more sense to me for a smaller/less known band than it does for Underoath. I'm struggling to think of a tour they'd be trying to get on where the headlining band wouldn't already know about them/want them on the tour or the venues they'd be trying to book that wouldn't have the same knowledge (and/or comfortability with seeing presale numbers). Unless they're trying to make some sort of significant jump into a different market, it really only matters for the nice vanity first week sales numbers.

 

True - the band did get Grammy nominated last album cycle..

 

it's not like underoath is a band that's definitely reached their ceiling. they can be bigger, they can attract more fans, they can play bigger shows. first week sales are never just for vanity, they have real implications

 

I’ve had to explain this to people so many times lately. Billboard’s rule change really screwed up how releases are handled with the vinyl delay now. This is why T-Swift and Olivia Rodrigo jumped back up to #1 recently. They got the streaming and the physical numbers separately.

 

I was trying to think of another band from the scene that made a big push and the first one I though of was Bring Me The Horizon, who hit #2 on the Billboard 200 with That's The Spirit (after some changes to their sound and a huge push on Apple Music that put them in front of a mainstream audience), #14 with Amo, and #46 with Post Human: Survival Horror. Erase Me hit #16 (Define The Great Line debuted at #2, Lost In The Sound Of Separation at #8). They can definitely get bigger, but saying that sales are going to be the reason for that feels like the wrong indicator to me.

 

Just to tack on to this, its also not uncommon for labels to offer bands financial incentives for charting or reaching certain sales quotas.

 

all things considered, I think Erase Me was actually a pretty damn good release for a band trying to hit the next level. Without knowing their finances though, did it do that? They opened for some larger bands, but here we are a few years later and they’re putting out a record ostensibly geared towards recapturing old fans more than widening the net for new ones, who are increasingly awash in the new wave of metalcore. Again, without being in their inner circle this record has the feel of a band that tried, didn’t get quite where they wanted, and now seem more content to do things their own way. Unless they’re plotting another rise on the next record, I still don’t see what the end game is here.

 

This is something that has been on my mind because the promotion or relatively lack thereof has been strange to witness so far. Unless I'm missing something, this has been a very unusual album rollout for them, and I'm not just talking about the unfortunate delay. Outside of the singles, there's only been a couple interviews, that one podcast where Tim played a snippet of "Thorns" to very few viewers and... that's it?

I know it was a different time, but I'm remembering how exciting the months leading up to O (Disambiguation) were. Between the music videos, the studio videos and performances, the Catching Myself contest, or the track by track iTunes interviews, it felt like there was always something new to consume as a fan.

It really makes me wonder when/if they're going to ramp it up as we get closer to the release date.

 

i didn’t really think about the lack of promo. I guess I interpreted the single release schedule as the substitute. On the one hand, I don’t mind it. In a selfish way it feels like UO are “ours” again but yea, hard to decipher where their heads are.

 

We’re still 3 months away from the record being released.

I’m more than positive they will ramp up the promo come December and they have a huge tour coming up on the same month of the release too.

 

According to his IG story, Spencer is going to drop the first single from his new (solo?) project, Slo/Tide, on November 14th. A page and pre-save links have been set up.

https://www.instagram.com/slotideband/
https://orcd.co/me1ke7o

 

the way I see it, the team behind them taking care of the marketing and promo and all that know way more than any of us about what’s best for them and what’s not and baseless speculation doesn’t do anybody any good. the album will drop when it drops, we’re probably gonna love it, the rest is just unnecessary noise to me

 

A snippet of Cycle (feat. Ghostemane) can now be heard here: https://www.voyeurist.io/

 

sounds outrageously dope

 

when Underoath drops half the album before release date

 

Sounds very good. I’m down for clips - still holding off on listening to any more singles until this record is out.

 

I’ve only listened to the first single. Now that several are out it seems pretty clear this will be a return to form and melds a lot of older underoath sounds. To those who have listened to most/all of the singles, anything stand out as being particularly *new*? Every previous UO records took some growing on in one way or another, or in the case of No Frame took a long standing UO trope and brought it to new heights. How’s this record seem to fare in the “what’s new?” category.

 

Cycle drops tomorrow

 

yikes.