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Halloween Kills (Gordon-Green, October 15, 2021) Movie • Page 19

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by airik625, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. ChaseTx

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    Saw this a second time in theater again last night and enjoyed it more, knowing about the things I really didn't like about it helped to quell the disappointment. Plus I had a big beer
    The main thing is I really hate everything in the hospital. Sidelining Laurie (and Hawkins) to just groan and talk about how evil Michael is for the whole movie was a bad decision, and the suicide really rubbed me the wrong way. They could have made the point they were trying to make without doing that.

    Still don't love how many characters there are, feels unfocused, although I understand that they needed a bigger cast to tell the story they wanted

    Pacing is bad

    Did like the 78 flashback stuff even though it's blatant shoehorning

    Still mad they killed Karen!

    Still feel this was really mediocre coming off the near perfect previous movie
     
  2. PepsiOne

    Formerly PepsiOne Supporter

    I laughed so hard at “I love grandmother.”
     
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  3. Welp, I also think The Lords of Salem is bad, so unfortunately I don't see this being the case lol. I love House of 1000 Corpses, Devil's Rejects and Halloween are okay, but that's about it. Both Halloween 2 and Lord's of Salem look like, well, Rob Zombie music videos, and suffer from faux-deep symbolism (among other things). The slow motion shots in Halloween 2 are unbelievably bad.

    It's not even that I hate his aesthetic but what I definitely don't need in a Halloween movie is characters threatening to "skull-fuck" each other
     
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  4. unbornwhiskey Oct 17, 2021
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    unbornwhiskey

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    i uh don’t agree with any of that. the only rob zombie movie that looks like his music videos is house of 1000 corpses. hallloween 2 is filmed in 16mm and it’s gorgeous but also grim and gnarly looking. lords of salem is a profoundly sad meditation on addiction??? no idea why someone who likes a few of his movies couldn’t get down with it

    “faux-deep” is a criticism i will never get. films are often as deep as what you’re bringing to them. i love the white horse in halloween 2 bc it’s a beautiful and beguiling image that has no explanation
     
  5. unbornwhiskey

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    the ending scene in the theater in lords of salem makes my jaw drop. it’s like his ‘70s grindhouse aesthetic curved all the way into kubrick
     
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  6. unbornwhiskey

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    and the opening scene of halloween 2, the hospital scene turning into a nested nightmare, with all that fucking rain and the moody blues playing on the security guard’s tv…. no bigger mood in the whole franchise outside of the og
     
  7. unbornwhiskey

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    there is also a scene in the director’s cut of halloween 2 i will never ever get over, which is sheriff brackett finding annie dead and the superimposed image of her as a child hugging a dog as he totally breaks down
     
  8. unbornwhiskey

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    pretty sure that’s filmed in the “bad” slo-mo you speak of too (the slo-mo isn’t bad, it has the shuddering frame rate of a very bad dream)
     
  9. unbornwhiskey

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    the reenvisioning of loomis as a greedy selfish shitbag is also perfect, as he resembles many of the mental health professionals i know of irl
     
  10. Clearly we're coming at it from different angles and that's okay lol I just really don't like the movie, but I'm glad some people do
     
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  11. chewbacca110

    "I'll chew on a dog!"

    Just got out of this. This gave me exactly what I wanted. Skimming some reviews made me temper my expectations hard and I disagree with about 90% of them.

    This delivered on the “Kills” front and it felt borderline refreshing after the minimal amount of onscreen kills in 2018. The flashbacks, while forced, she’s more light onto the trauma Haddonfield experienced. They made The Night He Came Home more than just Laurie and Loomis’ story and that of course feeds into the actions of the town in HK.

    What I didn’t like was how they latched onto “evil dies tonight”. You know how to kill a badass line? Have 11 different characters say it. I also didn’t like the clunky “he’s made us into the monsters”. Well duh - you wrongly cornered an innocent man to his death. That scene was super effective until they clinched it with that stinker.

    I have no idea where they take us in Ends, besides Laurie and Michael facing off again. That’s exciting to me.
     
  12. Contender

    Goodness is Nowhere Supporter

    I want a Big John and Little John spin-off.
     
  13. unbornwhiskey

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    big john and little john 4ever
     
  14. Jusscali

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    About to watch this again with my wife
     
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  15. youll be fine

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    I promise it’s totally ok for some people to love this movie and some people to hate it. None of the regs are dickheads lol so it’s totally fine
     
  16. Jusscali

    Synth-Bop Enthusiast Prestigious

    I do feel - like someone said above - that going in a second time with negotiated expectations now may result in more enjoyment overall
     
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  17. AlwaysEvolving21

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    I’ve noticed a lot of people rewatching this movie.
     
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  18. Serh

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  19. Jusscali

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    Yeah, I’m far less annoyed rn
     
  20. AlwaysEvolving21

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    Same thought ran through my kind watching this one with the recreation of the original in those flashbacks.
     
  21. The flashbacks (and CGI) in this were not only handled shockingly well, but downright enjoyable imo
     
  22. Jusscali

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    Replace the hospital with more of that and we groovy af
     
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  23. AlwaysEvolving21

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    Yeah the hospital shots were absurdly way too long.

    “It ends tonight!!!!” X 20

    “it’s not him!!!!” X 20
     
  24. Those lines didn't even bother me as much as Allyson saying shit like "He's haunted this town for 40 years. Tonight, we hunt him down."
     
  25. jkauf

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    Just started this, the tone of that flashback was incredibly weird.