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General Politics Discussion (IX) [ARCHIVED] • Page 412

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, May 8, 2021.

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  1. If I can be a leftist and live like this I still would

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  2. Jake Gyllenhaal

    Wookie of the Year Supporter

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  3. Helloelloallo

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  4. Richter915

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    Its important though you get a lot of centrists diluting the left and making the left easy targets for Nazis.
     
  5. Richter915

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    Really you don't care that dude could've bought less house and put that wealth towards I don't know folks stranded on skid row being hunted for sport? Or is this one of those "the problems fascists create are just insurmountable so I'm buying a jet ski"
     
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  6. sophos34

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    uh yeah dude im a recovering iv drug addict who has slept on the streets of kensington, at no point have i ever been like "you know who im mad at? people with leftist ideas that buy houses"
     
  7. Richter915

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    So only target people who actively acknowledge they're subhuman but dudes who have a communist manifest pdf, they're free to fuck with wealth

    Got it.
     
  8. neo506

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  9. St. Nate

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    the valid criticism doesn't discredit what ever positive he's done. but despite certain positives I do believe certain individuals water down socialism and leftist ideology - your AOCs, Hasanbi's, etc.

    as for general twitch streamer and youtuber discourse, i feel that there is a weird online drama mill that is perhaps algorithmically driven that is godawful and I rather avoid.
     
  10. David87

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    Perhaps…but there’s also value in charismatic people to put out content on the internet being the ‘gospel’ and educating others about stuff that they might not know about/hear about otherwise. I don’t think we have be all “but you don’t organize!” to them hah
     
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  11. Zoshchenko

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    hasan is good
     
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  12. David87

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    to this point, I first “heard” of him last school year when one of my AP Gov students told me about his YouTube channel and liked listening to him and his perspective. I didn’t realize until later when I looked up his name that I had seen plenty of his tweets haha
     
  13. sophos34

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    hasan doesnt "water down leftist ideology" nearly as much as AOC does and i would consider him more of a leftist than at least half the people who post in this thread. but apparently im not a real leftist and my perspective doesnt matter
     
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  14. St. Nate

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    yes there certainly is. it is also important to remember that criticism is not an attack or necessarily adismissal of one's contributions
     
  15. Blink182Bouncer

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    I liked Hasan back when he was on TYT, but U haven't really paid much attention to him since he went solo.
     
  16. St. Nate

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    not sure how you get that from Jake's post tbh. there's no basis for assuming these things.
     
  17. fowruok

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  18. Marx&Recreation

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    Even if criticizing Hasan for this is justified, it's nonetheless a pretty big waste of time.
     
  19. St. Nate

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    the thing is socialism cannot be built by the propagating of socialist ideas no matter how positive its effects. such an idea is very utopian socialism. scientific socialism assesses that socialism cannot be built without class struggle and revolution, this requires organizing, specifically imo a vanguardist party.
     
  20. Fuego

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    The cheapest current listing for a detached home in West Hollywood is 1.2 million dollars for a 2 bedroom house. So if he buys that and donated 1.8 million to charities, does it change the negative response? It definitely doesn't change the systemic failures that have caused an exponentially growing need for charity in our country.
     
  21. aliens exist

    pure on main

     
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  22. imthegrimace

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    What is the correct size house for a leftist to purchase?
     
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  23. St. Nate

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    not to charity per se, but to organizers, specifically a socialist party of some sorts.'

    also charities aren't necessary as much as they are the privatization of remedying the ills of capitalism.
     
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  24. CarpetElf

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    I saw someone give a hard figure of 500k.
     
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  25. CarpetElf

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    Also thoroughly convinced that on top of being completely out of touch with the price of houses, these people also have no idea how houses are even purchased.
     
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