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General Politics Discussion (IX) [ARCHIVED] • Page 403

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, May 8, 2021.

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  1. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  2. emt0853

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    Booooooooo
     

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  4. Ferrari333SP

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  5. sophos34

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    its weird to see a passive aggressive remark like this from you posting him when those of us who pushed back against his recent tweets did so in pretty level headed and fair ways, and others responded and had a discussion about it, but ive never seen you engage with the points brought up by those of us that take issue with some of his framing. so again its weird to see this passive aggressive remark about it.
     
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  7. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  8. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  9. https://www.covid-datascience.com/p...strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated
    In the case of vaccine efficacy vs. severe disease, it is the fact that both vaccination status and risk of severe disease are systematically higher in the older age group that makes overall efficacy numbers if estimated without stratifying by age misleading, producing a paradoxical result that the overall efficacy (67.5%) is much lower than the efficacy for either of the age groups (91.8% and 85.2%).[…]

    In conclusion, as long as there is a major age disparity in vaccination rates, with older individuals being more highly vaccinated, then the fact that older people have an inherently higher risk of hospitalization when infected with a respiratory virus means that it is always important to stratify results by age; if not the overall efficacy will be biased downwards and a poor representation of how well the vaccine is working in preventing serious disease (the same holds for efficacy vs. death). Even more fundamentally, it is important to use infection and disease rates (per 100k, e.g.) and not raw counts to compare unvaccinated and vaccinated groups to adjust for the proportion vaccinated. Use of raw counts exaggerates the vaccine efficacy when vaccinated proportion is low and attenuates the vaccine efficacy when, like in Israel, vaccines proportions are high.

    interesting look at the Simpson’s Paradox possibility
     
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  10. Yeesh
     
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  12. sophos34

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    and this is why vaccine effectiveness needs to remain at the forefront of the messaging
     






  13. Not all agree on the boosters it seems.
     
  14. Jake Gyllenhaal

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    This is what happens when the Instagram algorithm shows you suggested posts after you’re done scrolling accounts you follow
     
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    Good
     
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  19. spreadthehummus2321

    wanna go for a ryyyde

    im starting to think the reason i fucking hate jersey is because when i go there its usually in south jersey.
     
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  21. sophos34

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    going to rehab in south jersey was.....different, i'll tell you that
     
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  22. danielm123

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    Yeah, it would be fairly easy to say "why not give everyone a booster?" if vaccines were readily available globally, but with some countries not expecting to have adequate supply until 2023? But then again, there are thousands of vaccines going to waste in the United States anyway... It's frustrating because it's another ethical question embedded in structural factors that's being outsourced to individuals. And it doesn't have to be that way....
     
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  23. spreadthehummus2321

    wanna go for a ryyyde

    like traveling all over pa all the time im accustomed to red areas. south jersey doesnt even make up for it a little w the nice scenery and nature like pa does though and it just smells like shit
     
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