Remove ads, unlock a dark mode theme, and get other perks by upgrading your account. Experience the website the way it's meant to be.

Accountability in Music • Page 573

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. An incredible self-own
     
  2. This is very valid
     
    Anna Acosta likes this.
  3. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

  4. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Proper liked the first tweet from Pictoria Vark



     
    Anthony_ likes this.
  5. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    Also the survivor herself explicitly said she doesn't trust what he's done and isn't satisfied with how he handled everything after she accused him. Which the person from Proper. knows already because they apparently read the whole statement and are still acting this way.
     
  6. VanMastaIteHab

    Trusted Prestigious

    In re-reading the statement from the survivor, I guess I want to point out that it does end like this:

    “With all of this being said, I still encourage Dylan to reflect on this statement and on his past behavior, and I encourage him to commit to a more meaningful reckoning of his attitudes, behaviors, and privileges if he is truly invested in transforming himself for the better as he claims. I believe in his capacity to do that, and I genuinely hope he can find purpose and healing along the way.”

    This doesn’t excuse any of the way Proper. is acting about it right now, the aggressive tweets are the most disappointing thing about it to me.
     
  7. fbrrocks

    Trusted

  8. xapplexpiex

    sup? Supporter

  9. dylan

    Better Luck Next Time Supporter

    i'm p sad that i saw their response on my feed just now because kississippi liked it :(
     
  10. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    i would say giving more deference to your career ambition than your morals probably indicates you're a shitty person, but I don't want to participate in another shitstorm in this dumbass thread
     
  11. Also very valid and fair!!
     
    phaynes12 likes this.
  12. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious


     
    VanMastaIteHab and Anthony_ like this.
  13. was really hoping the survivor could avoid being made aware of this whole dust up, but maybe this is the start of something productive

    please, my ever-fraying hope in humanity needs it. today has been such a bummer
     
    Joe4th likes this.
  14. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I hope the survivor is able to have a meaningful conversation with Proper, and hopefully they learn that much of their language and the way in which they went about defending being on this tour is not appropriate and harmful to the survivor. I think it's fair to say Proper are shitty people but I hope this is a huge learning moment for them. Even if they do not drop off the tour, I hope *something* positive comes out of this conversation between the two.
     
  15. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

  16. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious


     
    incognitojones likes this.
  17. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

     
    sonder, jkauf, Crisp X and 3 others like this.
  18. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    Manae doing great work in that thread
     
  19. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    They are going at it with people over on Instagram too. More “you’re putting words in my mouth and I’m not going to continue this conversation” defensiveness.
     
    CarpetElf likes this.
  20. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

    He...still believes he is doing the right thing? Seriously?

     
  21. I don't think this person does believe they are doing the right thing. The defensiveness just doesn't match that. I could be wrong, but... I dunno. Feels more like they're trying to convince themselves it's okay when they know it doesn't really align. Or, I'm talking out of my ass here. But it doesn't smell honest.
     
  22. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter





     
    sonder, jkauf, web250 and 15 others like this.
  23. VanMastaIteHab Jun 7, 2021
    (Last edited: Jun 7, 2021)
    VanMastaIteHab

    Trusted Prestigious



    It keeps getting worse

    edit: everyone please listen to and support that hey, ily EP! It’s super good and it would be nice if that got a little more exposure.
     
  24. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    Apparently none of this is respectful feedback, according to the most recent Twitter reply.
     
  25. ItsAndrew

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I tried to respectfully air my grievences (that tweet is from me) but yeah, if they don’t think they are doing anything wrong and people are just not being respectful I don’t see what else can be done.