General Politics Discussion VIII [ARCHIVED] • Page 861

Student debt is just another way to keep poor kids poor.

 

My first two years of college I was too dumb to learn anything anyway. Just a totally undeveloped brain. I cared about making out with people and drinking with my friends.

I could’ve done that without spending 30k a year.

 

Woah now, hot shot!

 

Yeah I totally blew my first two years off. Went to my local community college on a scholarship and that was terrible decision for me. Kept me around my high school friends who didn't go off to college and got into a ton of dumb shit. Took a year off and then started to pull my head out of my ass slowly but surely. Even got to fall off having my parents be on my FAFSA and thankfully got some free money there at the end.

 

Anyway, bottom line is: do not privatize education. People have fought and died for their right to learn and be educated, and it should not be in the hands of people who wanna make a business out of it. There is no shame in making good money, but education should belong to everyone. So everyone should pay, or noone.

 

What can I say? I French kissed a lot when I was 18

 

Lol

 

This thread oh boy

 

I appreciate you writing this out. I’ve heard that a lot of European countries are like this. I don’t think it’s a trade off most people here would be willing to make for free college. The racial issues that will arise from that will be...big.

 

Another positive from a rep.

 

I'm not sure if this still stands (I graduated High School in 2010 [last year before university]), but we had selective weeding out as well, but it was mainly to drive GPA, rather than rehabilitative progression. We have 3 different schools, elementary, middle school, and high school. Before the end of elementary school you take standardized tests, which determine if you are on an "accelerated" or "standard" track. The catch is, if you take accelerated classes, they're weighted higher on your GPA. This compounds as you progress into high school. I was in a larger school, but because I was in the accelerated classes, it felt like I was only in high school with about 1/4 of them. This then allows you to get into better colleges, with a better SAT/ACT score, and so on and so on.

 

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May I ask you to elaborate on this? I am not sure i understand correctly

 

But is it true that in the US most families will try real hard to not send their kids to a public school?

 

All private art collections should go to museums but still king

 

I mean. I know what you're saying but... from where I'm sitting this basically already exists here, it's just a lot less honest and relies on "bootstrap" myths to convince the most disenfranchised that it's on them if they can't rise above. And in this country we force people to pay through the nose for a degree that's essentially worthless to MOST jobs that "require" them.

And by "this" I don't mean the literal mechanics of this system, but instead the way we're only given certain pathways based on our circumstances. There's no equal access in America. I don't see this as a trade off we'd have to make if we (Americans) stopped lying to ourselves about how our system works.

 

Not necessarily? I think there’s a small minority who send their kids to religious or alternative private schools, but that’s mainly restricted to people who can pay for it (hint: it’s expensive) or if you’re selected out of a lottery or something. It’s most what I’ve seem though, and may vary on a state/county level

 

Basically, Systemic racism+poverty has basically made it so that, at the moment, students of color will disproportionately make up the population of students that would “track” into the non-college levels of school. So if you did it that way here you’d end up with a college population that looks even less than what the US looks like (and it’s already pretty skewed). And then that would in turn possibly make the income and wealth divide between races even worse and etc