Avengers 4: Endgame (Joe & Anthony Russo April 26, 2019) Movie • Page 92

Odin was supposed to die in New York. That's why the first trailer had Hela destroying Mjolnir in an alleyway. They changed it to Norway last minute

 

That scene was not shot on location. It used to take place in New York. That’s why one of the first trailers had Hela destroying Mjolnir in an alley. There was also behind the scene photos pre release that showed the 3 in a city.

I forget why they changed the location, but yea, they did a bad job of disguising the change.

 

huh interesting

Hopkins always seemed checked the fuck out in all of his appearances (see his comments describing playing Odin as "no acting required) so I was glad they killed him off

 

No one is saying it’s just a silly comedy.

 

If I'm not mistaken, most of the script was improvised in Ragnarok.

 

Not sure if I heard that. There is clearly a ton of improv, but I assume a script was still there for the foundation. But I could be wrong and just never heard that.

 

definitely heard people say that before and I'm just offering a counterpoint

 

I think Ragnorak is definitely in the top 1/3rd of the franchise. I really like that it's a lot more light hearted, especially since it leads into Infinity War. Nice to see some of the characters having fun one more time before things go super dark. I also am partial to the cosmic movies in the MCU, so of course that bumps it up some.

I was a little worried going in that the humor would take away from the, in reality, serious events happening in the film, but I didn't find that to be the case. I still felt the emotional weight when Asgard was destroyed, and I loved the exploration of the relationship between Thor and Hulk, and then with Thor and Banner. And it's great that they really gave Hulk/Banner a character arc, rather than being kind of another player in the game.

 

Thor and Hulk have pretty odd character arcs Ragnarok through Endgame. Friggin rollercoasters, the both of them.

 

As silly as it is in Endgame with playing it off as a quasi-joke, that shit's real. Like the rest of the Avengers failed in general and whatever, but Thor SPECIFICALLY? He actually could have ended it, straight up. Literally had the one shot but because he missed Thanos' head it all failed. That's absolutely devastating.

 

Yep. Could have even cut off his arm

 

Thor, Valkyrie and Hulk had a ton of character development in that movie.

- Hulk learned that he has friends and that the Avengers don't "hate" him just because they like Banner
- Loki and Thor's relationship grew as brothers
- Thor learned that his power comes from within himself and that he's more than just his hammer
- Valkyrie went from a tortured alcoholic to a hero in order to save her friends and people
- Thor learns that as king, difficult decisions have to be made to protect his people. He was willing to sacrifice all of Asgard to ensure the safety of his people

And those are just a few moments

 

Looking back, I like that Tony was the only one that would be able to beat Thanos, despite not being the strongest. Out of all of the 14 million+ futures, only one had them winning and that was Tony using the stones. Thor, Captain America, Hulk, Captain Marvel, none of them could have ever beaten Thanos. It was either Tony or they all lost.

 

Fair. But it certainly wasn’t what was being said in the current discussion of it.

again, no one said there wasn’t character growth

 

Brie is like the purest person people suck

 

I hate that YouTube Channel.

 

Everyone should watch Waititi's Hunt for the Wilderpeople if you haven't already. It's hysterical. It's on Hulu, I believe.

 

Taika's next movie is about nazi youth, and he plays 'Hitler'. its one of the best movies of the year, fucking hilarious.

 

Anybody else like me thought Hela was going to pop up in Endgame?

 

Is this in reference to that body language video? I watched about 2 mins before I couldn't anymore. It was so stupid and ridiculous.

 

I thought that too. Especially once Thanos got beheaded

 

I feel like even before the movie I kind of expected Thanos to recruit other bad guys all along to fight all the heroes we had. And while I didnt think of it while watching, I wouldnt have been surprised if he used the Pymm particle to get Ronan, Hela, a younger and more evil Loki, Surtur, Malekith, and all of the evil cosmic villains for that final battle.

I probably wouldve thought that was TOO much especially since we wouldve needed SOME kind of way for those characters to be connected and it wouldve felt forced

Basically Im happy with what we got and glad they didnt do that lol

 

Current projections are that this is gonna be the second highest grossing movie of all time (not adjusted for inflation, obviously) by the end of this weekend. What an absolute monster this movie is

 

Just saw this. Best part in the whole movie was Dear Mr Fantasy at the very beginning

 

Thor: Ragnarok is my favorite MCU movie by a pretty big margin. In fairness though, I am a bigger Taika Waititi fan than I am an MCU fan.