Riot Fest 2019 (September 13-15) Tour • Page 27

Appreciate the input! UPDATED:

Blink-182 * The Raconteurs * Slayer (final Chi show)
Bikini Kill * Primus * Ben Folds Five * Rancid
B-52's * Rise Against * MC50 * Metric * The Roots * L7
Courtney Barnett * Violent Femmes * Toadies
Taking Back Sunday * Andrew WK * GWAR
Steve Earle & The Dukes * A$AP Rocky * The Struts
St Paul & The Broken Bones * Reverend Horton Heat
Vic Mensa * Tom Morello * Car Seat Headrest
A Day To Remember * The Get Up Kids * Anthrax
Guided By Voices * Naked Raygun * The Dandy Warhols
Against Me! * TSOL * alexisonfire * The Interrupters
The Adicts * Hot Snakes * Transplants * Deafheaven
Fu Manchu * All Time Low * The Story So Far
Senses Fail * Mark Lanegan Band * Teenage Wrist

 

Given that I highly doubt they'd hold the line-up announcement for such a small band, I'm going to assume second wave.

Bad Cop/Bad Cop probably depends on if/when their album comes out. I know they were recording a while ago, so maybe?

It's weird that they haven't landed Jeff Rosenstock yet... The "buzz" has died down a bit, so maybe this will be the year.

The Muffs would rule! Have they been doing anything lately?

Cue them getting added to Warped Tour in Atlantic City and people freaking out because they didn't get tickets. I'm not sure that's it but... That would make so much sense.

 

-This is me just hoping the lineup is out by May 22

-they are playing one of the Smoking Popes Chicago shows in May along with Flatfoot 56, Sincere Engineer, Sidekicks, Direct Hit! and War on Women.. that's honestly all I know

-No idea, but they were in the studio working on stuff in early 2018

 

Has Rozwell Kid ever played? I feel like they would be a good fit for Riot.

Also, a bit more Pitchforky, but an Animal Collective 10 year Merriweather Post Pavilion set would be cool.

 

I'll ask about Senses Fail this weekend.

 

Isn't Let It Enfold You the album Senses Fail played last time they played Riot Fest? It wasn't an "official" album play, but that's what their set was...

Rusty Shackleford, FI (Festival Investigator)

They played Denver in 2015, but they haven't ever played Chicago. They'd be a perfect fit, though!

I'll take on or before May 22nd for an announcement.

Those Smoking Pipes line-ups are fantastic! Those shows are both before the line-up is likely to drop too, so that means any of those are probably still fair game.

 

Direct Hit! have already been advertised for 350 Fest (I seriously seriously doubt any crossover with a punk fest in the Chicago area two weeks before Riot), but the rest are fair game as you say.

 

Direct Hit played last year as well, saw them 3 times between the pre show and saturday aftershow lol

 

Pup’s new tour dates count them out for Riot this year.

 

:(

 

Yea I'm super bummed and surprised about that. Seems like it would've been an obvious get.

 

Their May dates at the Metro already ruled them out.

 

Not really though. They’re both sold out and they could’ve easily come back in the fall.

 

Yeah Sum 41 played Concord last May and played Riot Fest too. May doesn't necessarily count a band out for the Fest. I think once it gets to the summer months is where it actually matters.

 

this is actually kind of old news, but Interrupters are opening for 311 & Dirty Heads in July at Tinley Park, but I'd have to think they still play Riot as an exception to whatever the rules are especially if Rancid is there..

 

The radius clause doesn’t exist anymore. For example, Ariana Grande is playing two nights at United Center and then headlining Lollapalooza in August.

 

That’s cuz lolla had her booked before Coachella got her and she had to reschedule her Chicago dates cuz they where originally this month. The radius clause still exists and is in play

the original Ariana dates where april 7th and 8th

 

Nope, not anymore. The Red Hot Chili Peppers played the United Center in May of 2012 and then headlined Lollapalooza the same year. Also, a few years ago Future played the United Center and the day after he played Lollapalooza. Last year Zedd headlined the Nickelodeon Slime Fest in June and played Lollapalooza in August. It stopped existing some years ago.

It’s not just big bands either, Jade Bird is opening for Father John Misty and Jason Isbell in June at Northerly Island and then playing Lollapalooza in August (I don’t recall if lower tiered artists were ever affected, but if so, this proves my point).

 

A few years back Bully played both Lolla and Riot the same year. I get the impression that the fests stopped pushing the radius clauses so hard when the festivals themselves became the draw. I’m sure they’d still prefer most of their bands not play another Chicago date close to the festival, and it probably is negotiated either way, but it’s not a hard and fast rule anymore. Who knows if that will change again as the festival bubble bursts, but for now it seems like enough people are buying tickets to these festivals for the experience regardless of who plays.

Even without a radius clause to consider, it doesn’t make sense for every band to route tours through the Midwest two or more times a year, and I would guess that drives the decision to play/not play a Fest or a second Chicago date more than radius clauses these days.

 

There definitely is still a radius clause just might not be as strict as it used to be I’m sure it’s all a part of the negotiations and what not. If artists have tours already lined up then get asked to play lolla they work something out. And it never effected the lower card it’s always been the headliners. And I’m sure we won’t get a Chicago tbs announcement for their 20 year tour till after summer fest unless they are on riot fest and not actually playing a headline show here.

Lolla has exceptions to the radius clause cause you only used 3 times over the past 10 years so... and prolly the only 3 times it’s happens including the almost 30 year history of lolla so saying it’s complete gone is invalid

 

I only included a few examples because I figured that was enough to prove my point, but alright. I’ve also been told by someone in a Lollapalooza group I am in on Facebook that the clause does not exist (and this person has contacts at C3, so I trust them more than anyone else). Not sure what else you want to believe it doesn’t exist but...the clause doesn’t exist anymore.

 

Also, as @troyplaysbass said, people are always going to go to festivals like Lolla, Pitchfork, and Riot regardless of when an artist or band last played in the area. A lot of people travel to festivals so the radius clause never means anything to them, and others wouldn’t spend money to see the artist or band on their own tour stop (especially if it’s in an arena or amphitheater) but would catch them at a festival instead in a more relaxed setting (no seats, can come and leave whenever, etc.)

 

Idk how you Can say it still exists when bands play lolla and have headline tours in the fall don’t stop in Chicago and usually don’t come back till the next year so there’s still one that is in place but like I said I’m pretty sure it’s changed over the years and is now heavily modified for the reason I said and just cus someone knows someone’s doesn’t mean shit they could be fed false information. Don’t believe everything your told or read. now I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure there still one in place. And I’m sure live nation has final say not c3 cuz live nation owns the controlling interest in c3 presents. Live nation owns 51 percent of c3 so yeah they most def have the final say so knowing someone who works or has contacts at c3 means nothing

 

But whatever I don’t even care it’s pointless to argue about something that doesn't even matter I’m done with this convo moving back to talking about what this thread is actually about riot fest!!!