Accountability in Music • Page 247

The fact they still have fans (who I assume are all underage girls) makes me sick.

 

This shit makes my blood boil. I want to say in clear and certain terms that giving money to Warped is a co-sign of this behavior. They contributed to this culture and enabled it endlessly. For decades. And refuse to take accountability. Fuck your nostalgia. This is the legacy of the festival.

 

Jesus

 

Here’s the softball interview Billboard ran where they just let Kevin say this never happened on Warped unchallenged:

Warped Tour to Hit the Road For Final Trek in 2018: Exclusive Interview With Founder Kevin Lyman

 

I forgot how mad this entire answer made me the first time I read it:

Well, that sexual harassment didn't happen on Warped Tour. If you go through every one of those stories, it didn't happen on Warped Tour. The Jonny Craig thing did happen on Warped Tour, and I addressed it the same way. We sent him away. And then all of a sudden, I've gotta have town hall meetings with it. But if you really go through all that stuff, things happen prior to the tour or things… it's part of the culture.

Warped Tour, the thing is, it's funny because the way we used to deal with any problem was if we found out an artist was disrespecting a woman, they were usually brought back behind a tour bus by some people on the tour, and given a few options in life. Your life was not being threatened, but you were educated out there.

There's artists that come to me and go, “You know what? I was young. I didn't know I was offending the women... I didn't know that until one of the bands that I respected growing up pulled me aside and told me this is unacceptable.” The Front Porch Step thing, to be honest -- he wasn't on the tour, but then we brought him to that one show. I was still going under the premise of asking professionals, thinking it was the right thing to do. I still looked to professionals, because I'm not a trained therapist or psychologist. So the way we addressed it was, I supplemented the organization A Voice For the Innocent to come out and be a part of my tour. They've grown into a large organization that's helping all these kids year ‘round now.

Re-reading it ... I just have no words.

 

I feel like if in the interview you have to refer to each instance as "the [insert artist name] thing" to let the interviewer know exactly which instance you're referring to it's probably a pretty big problem

 

This mother fucker really had the nerve to say “if you go through every one of these stories, it didn’t happen on Warped” with that much confidence.

 

remember when he used to argue on twitter with concerned people in their late teens and early 20s and was wildly dismissive and combative instead of listening to any of us

 

I for one am glad the pedophile carnival stoppped touring, and only wish the pedophile ringmaster was held accountable.

 

Oh my god do you remember when he went on my twitter and yelled at me for posting a picture of myself doing a face mask and said it proved I wasn’t serious?

 

Remember when he asked me to come to Warped Tour and talk to him about the multitude of issues and I said I wasn't the person he should be listening to but I'd pay for multiple women that were leading the charge if they'd like to instead, and he should listen to them, and he said "nah."

 

I do remember that because then the day after Warped was in Detroit that year, he was like “I mean I tried to invite you to talk in person and you were so unreasonable!” When he never actually did.

 

Lyman just never learned. He never did anything different. He didn’t actually listen to anyone. And it seemed like his defense was always “we work with charities” or something along those lines.

That still doesn’t excuse you letting shitbags on your tour.

 

I remember when Ronnie Radke "invited" me to Warped Tour so he could "kick my ass" too. But that's a whole different thing.

Such a safe environment that Warped Tour.

 

This twitter thread makes me remember when the website would go down all the time.

 

Hahahaha same, and reading the rants between us and Kevin made me remember how restrictive twitter character count used to be with the @s counting towards the 120 limit

 

holy fuck that dahvie shit is horrendous. i hope he gets sent away for a long time, what a fucking creep. if someone killed him, I wouldn’t be too upset either.

 

That guy is 34?!

 

I kinda posted about it in the article thread already but I’m having a really hard time coming to terms with the fact that the teenager being referred to, was a friend of mine.
And honestly I don’t know if she told me this, or if she did how I reacted, and I just am so disappointed that this happened here and to her and that I was probably a piece of shit about it, if I knew.
I was also p shitty to her in other ways that I wasn’t able to identify until I was an older and less shitty person
Ugh.

 

Billie Eilish: ‘I want to be able to mourn for XXXTentacion, I don’t want to be shamed for it’

That's not how anything works but OK.

 

FYI, this was addressed very recently in this thread.

 

Fair enough. I'll have a look. I mostly just lurk in here these days.

 

picked up Meet Me In The Bathroom today and I didn’t realize that Ryan Adams would be featured in it as well.. may just skip over his parts

 

which is funny because I have countless testimonials in my various inboxes from young women letting me know what happened to them on Warped but have never felt safe coming forward WONDER WHY