Pinegrove Address “Sexual Coercion” and Announce a New Album

Hall and Pinegrove couldn't have handled this any better. It's too bad Allen didn't exercise proper discretion to begin with.

 

Best news I've heard all day.

Edit: New Music Friday?!

 

That is an incredibly well-written article.

 

Real weird situation mishandled in a lot of aspects. Glad both parties could come together and take necessary steps to move forward in a way that was respectful to the victim. Excited for Pinegrove music.

 

One the one hand, I respect the article's effort to clarify a situation that was made unnecessarily unclear. On the other hand, it reads like a rationalization of the author's fandom in spite of a band member's misconduct; it feels weirdly exploitative, like I'm reading an article about private matters that I had no business knowing about in the first place. I don't have all the answers for how we should discuss these kinds of situations in the #MeToo era, but I don't think this is it.

 

You bring up a good point, but it essentially was forced into the open by Allen's mishandling of the situation from the beginning. So while part of it may feel like it was written by a fan seeking to rationalize the situation, I think it's completely reasonable to follow up in this way.

 

I am cautiously excited for this new era of the band. I think restorative justice is an important next step in some cases and this seems like the best way it could have been handled. Hopefully this is just the beginning of a longer conversation.

 

Jenn Pelly is a critically acclaimed journalist and author, please do not reduce her to a fan with an agenda. I've linked some of her pieces for context. She's probably thought about this far more than any of us has.

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Not sure how to feel about this. I'll have to reread the article a few times and think about it more clearly, because I'm not totally okay with how things have been handled. There are definitely better ways to handle them, I think? I don't know the answers though.

 

Do I have this right.....Evan Hall meets a woman. Woman is in a relationship. Hall pursues her while knowing she was in a relationship. She ends relationship to be with Hall. New relationship doesn’t work out. She tells somebody who takes it upon herself to contact the people that work around his band that he’s being accused of some sort of sexual abuse?

I’m sorry to sound like such a dope when I wrote that, but this situation was always so confusing.

Didn’t the woman from Punk Talks have a similar situation with the guy from Sorority Noise? Or do I have that completely wrong?

I hope whatever wrongs were done are now made as right as they can be.

This is a lot to keep up with.

 

I know it's probably for legal reasons and whatnot, but I can't help but cringe every time I read alleged victim.

 

Be that as it may, that does not mean that her work is immune to critique.

 

Can I ask you why? It's a common term.

 

No, but in my opinion, it's incredibly infantilizing to think that she's just being a fangirl.

 

Fantastic article, very thought provoking, just sent it to my girlfriend so we can have a discussion about it later tonight. Calling Jenn a fan girl is so damn disrespectful.

 

I have been eagerly waiting to hear the studio version of the song "Skylight" since a HQ rip of them playing live was posted to YouTube over a year ago. All the feels.

 

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Every live song I've heard online has sounded great, but yeah that one in particular is at the top of my most anticipated list. Can't believe it's just two days away now.

 

So this is what a path forward after reconciliation looks like

 

This article is great and is worth reading all the way through. Allen made me incredibly upset and made me even more untrusting about opening up. Definitely glad this piece exists in this time.

 

Because it's been recognized by all parties that she is, indeed, a true victim and not just an alleged one.

 

Not sure about lots of the parts in that situation, but I'm glad it took such a turn, I think the article is really well written, I'll definitely have some thoughts about it as well.

 

The reconciliation is good and I'm glad they've reached some sort of solution between them, but I still don't think he should be able to come back. I feel abuse and being accountable for it should mean you aren't ever allowed back into positions like these, and him trying to relaunch this band is a shitty move. As others have said elsewhere, there are other ways he can make a living without being in a position of power like this one.

 

To be blunt, I'm far more concerned about accountability and community safety than the feelings of a single author on the matter. But if the latter are what we've chosen to prioritize, then perhaps this isn't the forum to voice serious concerns about a controversial article.