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Accountability in Music • Page 39

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Stephen Young

    Regular Prestigious

    Which group was that?

    Anecdotally, so many people I know are pretty excited about that Moose Blood show. On the other hand, people dropped PWR BTTM in about 3.5 seconds. Even Hedley, a band exponentially more massive than MB got dropped pretty quickly. Very very different situations of course, but it seems like people just really don't care about this. 4

    In other news, Blind Justice (the band accused of the same thing eddy from MB did) is playing a show in Montreal this saturday with Regulate (harry corrigan, the guy who got outed by christian holden). The event is pretty well attended. I wonder if since I use my real name they'll harass me like they've done to people in the past lol.
     
  2. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious



    PWR BTTM isn't comparable because their whole point of their popularity was based on safe scenes. Hedley was physical sexual abuse. this was pictures. a lot of people think this isn't a big deal. it is, and they are gross people. also, this allegation still hasn't circulated much. people think this was over when they kicked out their first member.
     
  3. Stephen Young

    Regular Prestigious

    your point about PWR BTTM is true. I just meant that these are bands that had shows booked here, and once they were outed, their crowd dropped them pretty quickly (more specifically PWR BTTM- Hedley still continued their tour to full-ish areans). Even people who stood by them, at least there was public discussion on the topic. in this case, no one batted an eye. very very different cases, obviously. no clue how much this allegation has or hasn't circulated, I kinda stopped listening to/caring about MB once the allegations about the drummer came out, but it's disappointing that no one cares about this.
     
  4. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    this one got minimal coverage. the only thing that this specific allegation got was a mildly circulated tumblr post as well as the statement the band made a few weeks back
     
  5. tshreve

    Metalicca

    Something I gotta add to this conversation is that a friend of mine who used to be close to the band told me that the shitty things Moose Blood have done extend waaaaaaay beyond just the stealing pictures thing
     
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  6. I’ve heard this from multiple people. And at this point I don’t doubt any of it
     
  7. leerkat

    relentlessly nosy bastard

    That's because Slam Dunk are deleting negative comments about moose blood. they definitely knew, and they definitely don't want to drop moose blood.
     
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  8. EASheartsVinyl

    Prestigious Prestigious

    There is a change.org petition to kick them off that already has 1,200 signatures. Seems like a pretty swift thing. There are a ton of comments about it too, maybe they gave up on deleting people.
     
  9. wizard of loneliness

    harmonywoods.bandcamp.com

  10. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    Not surprising but super depressing. I get the feeling in all these cases things go way deeper than the public knows.
     
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  11. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    Truly didn’t expect Nandi to stand w him and I’m extremely disappointed
     
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  12. wizard of loneliness

    harmonywoods.bandcamp.com

    big same lmfao
     
  13. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    is anyone in this thread as close to the situation as Nandi? I'm asking sincerely
     
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  14. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    As close? No. Close enough to have a strong enough stake to say that her standing by him is gross? Yes
     
  15. wizard of loneliness

    harmonywoods.bandcamp.com

    i really don't wanna be that person that's all "i know something you don't know but i can't tell you hehe sorry!" but i can tell you with absolute certainty that they are actively going against the victim's wishes here
     
  16. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    I find it weird how many people don't wanna be that person but end up being that person. If there's more to the story that you can't say why post in the first place? You know people are going to have questions
     
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  17. leerkat

    relentlessly nosy bastard

  18. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    Because none of us want to out the survivor? We’re all saying the same thing, that Evan sucks and is actively attempting to gaslight his victim, but can’t say more so it doesn’t blow back
     
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  19. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    Evan already went against the victims wishes once and if this is going against them again then he's obviously not making progress and I would be disappinted in Nandi too. On the face it just didn't seem like the worst thing to me since I'm working with what appears to be limited information
     
  20. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    Surely you see how it confuses people when not all information is available and no one will say more. I get not outing the victim, buy the whole "I know something you don't know and I can't say" is frustrating when only half the story is known and this doesn't fill in any blanks. Obviously I trust you above the majority of people so I'll take your word for it but idk it's a fine line sometimes
     
  21. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    I get it, for sure. Frankly, none of this should be happening because Evan’s statement shouldn’t have existed because no one wanted it. But here we are now, and a bunch of people have to be like “Evan sucks but I can’t tell you why but I can’t let this stand” which is extremely painful because I would LOVE to say what’s on my mind.

    On the other hand, as a person who’s been involved in second/third/fourth hand call outs, I hate them and am tired, so I understand that it’s a fine line. But I do have strong, informed feelings on this particular situation
     
  22. EASheartsVinyl

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Seems like this week has been a big backslide about how things are handled and seeing abusers continue on without any difficulty.
     
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  23. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    At the end of the day this is completely Evans fault in the first place, you're a hundred percent right on that. The frustration definitely stems from the fact something happened in the first place and feeling helpless in the pursuit of justice when you don't know the full story but know something needs to be done. But like I said, I trust you 100%
     
  24. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    That's the way it's always been unfortunately in all mediums. Cases like the PWR BTTM thing are unfortunately outliers, when that should be how it's always handled by the community. I think progress is being made in terms of awareness but the next step is progress in action taken when these things happen.
     
  25. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    I appreciate that, truly
     
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