Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1631

Check Twickets out for face value tickets (if anyone is selling them on there) it may save you money if the shows sold out (rather than touts).

 

I was actually just going to talk about Jackson as well as he just came on the radio. He seriously has gotten off pretty lightly. He did some pretty crook stuff

 

I don't want them to have my money.

 

Shit, we still don’t care. I mean, Tyga began dating Kylie Jenner when she was 16 (he was 24). He first met her when she was 14 (he was 22).

When he “professed his love for her” People magazine called it “sweet.” He was 25 and she was 17. And this was like 2 years ago.

And Wilmer is such a crazy creep. He dated multiple women at 17. It’s a clear pattern with him.

 

Somebody mentioned fake accounts trying to reach the fans earlier today...that's another thing...did you see Brian Fallon's IG post yesterday? Somebody under his name was trying to DM some girls

 

Noticed that. He’s been making it known that there are fake accounts.

 

Fair. I get what you're saying. I just think they're going to get it from someone else anyway so you could put the opportunity to a good use. I understand your decision though. I have spent like... $200 towards Brand New this year.

And where does it stop? Should I feel bad for purchasing the new KD album off PMT too? Idk.

 

Honestly the current feeling toward MJ seems to be more along the lines of him being one of the children whose lives were so ruined by this industry that a lot of his bizarre behavior was not necessarily malicious or dangerous but just his way of dealing with what he went through. I think it's more likely that we will find out more and more information about him being misunderstood and ruined by the public for it than more stories of him hurting people. His life is incredibly tragic either way.

 

I always felt weird making judgements about that situation, especially since I didn't know about it until right after he died. Were we supposed to bring it up at every point while she was in mourning? I legit had no clue how to react. Making an already difficult time for her even worse seemed wrong.

 

I feel this, it was my original plan and I think anyone intending to do it is awesome. However, this whole thing has been pretty troubling and exhausting and so I would rather just not give them my money.

I have the rest of their catalogue on vinyl as well as the TDAG demos cassette, perhaps I'll find a way to turn those into a donation instead of them just chilling on a shelf.

 

Also, just stay off reddit. It’s a cesspool.

 

If anyone tries to use tragedy to justify what he's done, I'll truthfully lose my god damn mind.

 

The public discourse regarding these stories is always interesting depending on circumstances (country, which genders, are they still together, etc.) - a prime example that I talked about with friends on the weekend is the French president, and the fact he's been with his wife since she was his teacher. I don't think people know how to evaluate their history knowing they've now been together so long. Obviously her behaviour was completely inappropriate at the time, and it's impossible to know how that influenced their future. But it's clear the public doesn't know how to approach that situation and those like it, and it's understandably complicated.

I'm not implying the Jesse example is complicated - it isn't. It's despicable stuff. My tangent is that there are a lot of other public examples like Emmanuel Macron or Paul Walker that force reflection on public figures and their lives,

 

Not in a fantastic mental state atm and previously I'd listen to Brand New to try and make myself feel better. Even if I was somehow able to justify to myself that it's okay to listen to them again, the actual music is completely ruined because I'll just feel disgusted by this whole situation and what he did and it'll be at the forefront of my mind. It's not like they were the only band of their kind, but their music became a sort of safe space (as twisted as that sounds now) just because it was for me.

I honestly don't know what to do now, or what to listen to, or if to listen to any music at all. Well aware that this is trivial to what the victims have been forced to go through, and such a relationship with a band's music was always going to be an unhealthy one i'd have to move on from, but this has left a hole for me I'm not too sure how to fill. As MO put it, a crutch is a crutch. Anyway, apologies for my selfish venting, but don't really have anywhere else I can say this and it's made me feel a little better.

 

this is porches/frankie cosmos right?

 

This is where I’m at as well, here are the albums I’ve found peace in.

Hotelier HLNPIT
Hotelier goodness
Thrice major minor ... yellow belly certainly hitting a nerve right now
Thrice vhiessu- to remind me there are albums close or just as good as the devil and god.

Mwy pale horses
Manchester Orchestra - abmtts to prove to myself there are albums just as good as scifi in 2017

Not sure if this helps at all And I’m sorry you feel this way :(

 

i was on a bunch of xanax this weekend and just remembered this and looked into it more and definitely am going back on whatever the fuck it was i said, im glad theyre breaking up because i cant support them anymore

 

looks like p4k is taking off with it

https://pitchfork.com/news/two-alle...detail-years-of-sexual-exploitation-of-minors

 

Wow, it gets even worse, which is hard to believe seeing how bad it alreay was. Poor women.

 

I think this situation becomes more difficult based on region. For me, in Canada, and many across Europe, 16 is the age of consent. It warps my perspective of the situation, which may be illegal or something where you are but it literally legal here. Idk, I don't have much to add, I am still a huge Porches fan, but I wonder what my perspective would be if I was born/raised somewhere where the law is different on the situation.

 

Woof that P4K article. No bueno.

 

ya, fuck...its only gonna get worse

 

also btw i find the porches/frankie thing pretty nauseating tbh.

 

so i guess me vs maradona isnt a metaphor

 

Glad I couldn't go to their Chicago show and ended up selling my ticket. Sexual addiction and his mental health issues is absolutely not an excuse for what he did. Hopefully he actually gets charged for the crimes he committed.

Also as someone who has been sexually abused in the past I'm not sure if him reaching out to the people he abused would be a good thing. A victim hearing from their abuser would probably just cause more pain. There is no forgiveness for acts like this.