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Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1627

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Dirty Sanchez, Aug 15, 2017.

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  1. LJ Rime

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    Oh I'm sure he's happy that he's apparently earned your approval.
     
  2. bradpetrik

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  3. bradpetrik

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  4. ComedownMachine

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    Don't shame people for something they didn't know was bad at the time. Maybe someone can't afford covering up? Maybe the piece is way too big to even cover up? Maybe it means the world to them even if it's tainted?
    My girlfriend got a tattoo and she isn't going to cover it up because it wasn't wrong at the time of getting it.
     
  5. heywassuphello

    spare only the ones I love

    Last I saw she updated her post to say that now she thinks she was "catfished" by someone pretending to be him, then later removed the post.
     
  6. Gotcha, thanks. Deleting my post.
     
  7. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    I think for a lot of people too (though not all and I'm not saying this is a bad reason to get a tattoo) they get the tattoo not just because they like the band but because it has some deeper meaning for them that goes beyond the band.
     
  8. LJ Rime

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    Any mod on Reddit has a tough job, so I try not to judge any of them too harshly in situations like these. Reddit can often go from people using common sense to an absolute dumpster fire in seconds.
     
  9. Mister Lyrical

    Forging Clarity Supporter

    My friend is a victim of sexual assault and has a "Fight Off Your Demons" tattoo, if someone's going to shame her for that, they can go fuck themselves.
     
  10. heaththehorizon

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    It is back up on twitter, the girls best friend re posted it.
     
  11. Drewski

    Maybe so, maybe not.

    For fucks sake I have a full time job and can not be on the Reddit every SECOND, give me a fucking break and I will handle it when I can.
     
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  12. Benjamin Lee

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    PMT! refunded my Limited Vinyl Pre-order. So if anyone else wants to do the same, just mention that it’s because of recent events you want to cancel and they should do it.
     
  13. BTDandFeelingThis

    Now I Know This World Isn’t Spinning Just For Me Prestigious

    @ComedownMachine @Larry David
     
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  14. MidDave

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  15. teebs41

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    I would back off, its not an easy time for anyone.
     
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  16. EASheartsVinyl

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    Warning that this probably will still be rambly and long, but I saw that this kind of got buried and I know it's only related thematically and not to Jesse, but the whole thing with Jeanae has always been incredibly complicated and full of misinformation and it's honestly probably impossible to really know when/how it went down unless you were personally there at the start. I think of all of the rumors and conflicting stories and dates contributed to a lot of people kind of throwing their hands in the air about it, which if these rumblings in the past few days about the same pattern existing that Jesse was perpetuating are true will turn out to be a great shame for the community.

    I know one of the most commonly cited and damning accounts that lists her as being 15 when they started dating is full of easy to verify mistakes that makes the whole timeline hard to follow. Stuff like when Pete and Patrick met and how FOB formed, when TTTYG was written/recorded and who wrote the lyrics, and just lots of little things that obviously don't make the story false but do make it confusing and hard to accept as a full picture.

    The other MAJOR point is that Jeanae has never wanted to be characterized as being a victim in any sense, and was fairly open about that when she still blogged. That brings pretty much any discussion about this to a standstill, and rightly so. We know for an absolute fact that their relationship was toxic and unhealthy for both of them, but she personally claims she was not underage when they dated and that has to be respected. Jason posted that she specifically told him she was of age and that she did not want to be in any further discussion about it years ago. Part of believing women and respecting their lives and autonomy means not dragging them through the mud for something that they disagree with and don't want to comment on at all. I feel like the people pushing her and saying, "You're lying! Admit you were a child!" are no different than those saying Jesse's accuser was lying about her experience. There's just no way to try to push this story as is without hurting her.

    That being said, as I mentioned earlier I have seen a lot of comments in the last few days hinting at or specifically saying that Pete/Andy have just as many stories about them as Jesse for hurting young girls, and that is an entirely different story. One complicated story about an inappropriate and harmful relationship may not have been something to take the whole band down over, but if ANYONE comes forward now I'm positive it would. I'm kind of numb and floored about the possibility already, but the scope of them being involved in this is absolutely terrifying.


    Also yeah this was not TL;DR at all, whoops.
     
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  17. MidDave

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    Welp, that was quick.

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  18. bradpetrik

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    I need a TL;DR of your TL;DR.
     
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  19. I do wonder if the label will continue on or not.
     
  20. St. Nate

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    Yup. Just got my refund confirmation too.

    I actually used the download code so... I guess I got a way with $10.
     
  21. teebs41

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    nah, just can't see that happening. They need to continue to support the release of Kevin Devine's new album and then disband.. its not like there are a ton of bands on it anyway.
     
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  22. RobJGolde

    Wrecked 'em? Damn near killed 'em!

    I'm still in disbelief over this. Not disbelief of the victims, I stand behind them and their accounts of what happened to them. It's just sadness, shock, anger and disappointment towards Jesse and the band at this point. Also it just feels shitty having taken such enjoyment out of Brand New's music at the expense of people (children, mind you) suffering crippling anxiety, sadness and/or lack of self-worth because of Jesse's actions. I hope that this exposition is giving the victims some kind of closure, and I applaud them for coming forward. I can't imagine how difficult it must've been to do so or to hold it in for all that time.
     
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  23. Jamie Dagg

    Master of not knowing what the hell I'm doing.

    Depends how much of an input Jesse had in the label I reckon. If it was more the other members, it could do, possibly under a different name. That is, if it's even financially viable after this. None of the other artists were exactly big financial hitters.
     
  24. what

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    Being angry at a Reddit mod for the stupid shit other people post is entirely unfair and I urge you to fuck off.
     
  25. The Mysterious

    Yes...but a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts

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