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Woman Accuses Jesse Lacey of Soliciting Nude Photos From Her at 15 • Page 9

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. chris

    Trusted Supporter

    Didn't he join some hardcore band like right after the whole No Good News thing happened?
     
  2. nfdv2

    Trusted Prestigious

    did jeff ever say anything publicly about ian? if so, i'd like to believe that was just oversight on his part
     
  3. He plays in a band still afaik, and people that lied to me about it still tour manage bands and work for labels and the booking agent that covered for him and made gross comments about it are still relatively well respected and I see them chumming it up with people on Twitter all the time.
     
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  4. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    AFAIK, no, which is pretty fucked up. I'd like to believe it too, but he didn't even offer an apology after taking it down
     
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  6. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    Jeff never said shit about Ian. My friend is the one who was raped by him and it’s been a long and hard journey for her watching Progressive Allies do fuck all because he’s their friend.
     
  7. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    You and me both. Very eye opening. What was more eye opening was how many dudes got close to me, were super stoked on The Cause, and then became annoyed and distant when I kept being loud and didn’t stop at just Harry and FPS. I got the “people are starting to talk about you maybe chill” text a few times and it broke my goddamn heart.
     
  8. DarkHotline

    Stuck In Evil Mode For 31 Days Prestigious

    That’s absolutely horrible
     
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  9. carrytheweird

    www.nrdc.org

    Fucking Christ I had thought after quite a bit of backlash he was removed. I'm assuming this is a new band? And this label was Pure Noise if I'm not mistaken?
     
  10. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    Also, Long Island will never spit out its boys- it’s a cesspool. More so in hardcore, which is why Harry chose to set up there, I’m sure.
     
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  11. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    He's still completely engrained in the scene he held power in. Nothing changed. JJR basically got more scene famous, too
     
  12. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    im excited to convince brand new's legion of emo/pop punk fanboys to believe this woman
     
  13. carrytheweird

    www.nrdc.org

    Not that I want any pot stirred but, what other artists from that scene? I ask because if it isn't obvious, being from NY and my family from Long Island, I'm a fan of many from there. But I certainly don't know the social connections and what not that concerns stuff like rape, sexual abuse. I wanna know if I'm listening to the wrong people's music.
     
  14. Kingjohn_654

    Longtime Sunshine Prestigious

    I don't have an answer, but I hope someone answers you. This site is a safe place. I don't know who or what it is, but I believe you.
     
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  15. honkytonk

    Narcissism on narcotics

    Catching these guys on the 17th but it seems tainted now... sucks. Hope the victim is supported in any way possible.

    Is this sort of a shocker to the community or is this one of many instances that have been whispered about throughout the years?
     
  16. crunchprank

    crunchprank.net Prestigious

    I think it's a good question, and one that we constantly see ourselves asking because of all the gross stuff that is popping up, especially as of late. The thing is, I don't really think there's one answer for everyone. You have to do some self-evaluation and find out where your own line is drawn. Like @kaylasananjou said here, it's important to not reward the abuser and the people who hid what they did or still support what they did. I think everyone needs to draw their own conclusions on what their own actions should be. But first and foremost, before you evaluate anything, think of the victim and put yourself in their position. Think about that for a while. Then decide where to go from there.

    If anyone else has any input, please feel free. Because I see this question asked a lot.

    Edit: I missed the "with a shitty twist" part so not sure if my post still applies, but putting the victim first will always apply.
     
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  17. jackludwick

    Jack

    being a member of the brand new reddit is an embarrassment right now. so many people in the thread are trying to make excuses for this without even acknowledging that the victim is a living breathing human woman. its disgusting
     
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  18. bradpetrik

    Trusted Prestigious

    Ask away.
     
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  19. bradpetrik

    Trusted Prestigious

    reddit is a cesspool.
     
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  20. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    JJR played fest this year in a band
     
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  21. slimfenix182

    FUCKIN SAVAGES IN THAT FUCKIN BOX Prestigious

    Never visited the brand new reddit before:

    "I better not see anyone stop listening to them because of this. I will be hardcore judging you if you cannot separate art from the artist.

    Also, more importantly, I hope people don't hold this against the Science Fiction album when it comes to publications' year-end list. It seemed like it would be in like the top 10 of a lot of major websites, and it would be awful if any of them decided not to list it based on this."

    ...aaaand I think this was the last time I make that mistake
     
  22. bradpetrik

    Trusted Prestigious

    This is why I'm done with pop-punk. The genre and scene is a disaster.
     
  23. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    I was very confused for a second
     
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  24. bradpetrik

    Trusted Prestigious

    The latter. I've heard rumors. But hero worship makes people do stupid things.
     
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  25. Wow. I feel sick. I'm really tired of hearing about grown white men taking advantage of their platform and power, and abusing underage girls. I hope she finds some peace, it took so much courage sharing this. I'm so angry. I was sexually harassed a few years ago, very similar circumstances to this woman here, and didn't talk about it until this year. Constantly told myself it wasn't that bad, it wasn't actual abuse, i deserved it, I was too sensitive. Fuck people who make you feel like your abuse is less than that, and keep on living knowing they hurt someone like this.

    I wish I wasn't surprised... Jesse was my idol, his lyrics have helped me through the worst times of my life, and it's going to be tough calling him out and separating myself from the band. But my feelings towards their music are nothing compared to living with the trauma associated with sexual assault. I hate that this keeps happening, but I'm so proud of all the women who share their experiences and I will always stand with them
     
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