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Sexism/Feminism/Womanism Discussion Thread Social • Page 10

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    pretty good
     
  2. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    How is she legally allowed to do this with her contract?
     
  3. Chaplain Tappman

    Trusted Prestigious

    Zedd claimed they got permission from Kemosabe/Sony
     
  4. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

    I don't really understand this exchange though.

     
  5. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    passive aggressive tweeting, aka tweeting?
     
  6. Chaplain Tappman

    Trusted Prestigious

    yeah this was confusing to me too
     
  7. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    He clearly doesn't want this song out, but Sony went over his head. Luke has got to be the main reason she's not allowed to release music.
     
  8. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    I love the idea that Dr. Luke is kinda having a temper tantrum with steam coming out of his ears. Not as big a fan of the assault stuff though
     
  9. PandaBear!

    Trusted Prestigious

    Just happened across this video - I know this is a selfish ask, but is anyone able to give it a watch & offer some critiques of what she's saying? I get suspicious when the comment sections seem to be full of "meninist" types.

     
  10. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    I'd love to see a well informed debate between her and someone of the opposition. It's an interesting take to say the least.
     
  11. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    She really simplifies every issue, I hate when someone has a really good tone and is well informed with something I wildly disagree with like this
     
  12. PandaBear!

    Trusted Prestigious

    I happened across it because "disposable" is the perfect word that sums me up at present. I'm beginning to feel depressed again, and with no friends, a lackluster job, no money, no house etc. etc. I just feel I offer nothing to anyone; the planet doesn't need me & wouldn't miss me.
    TBPH I did connect with a lot of what she said (despite seeing instances where she "glossed over" certain things in order to make her point better) - do you think it is my current mindset that allows me to connect, and if I wasn't feeling so useless in life I could perhaps find obvious fault with this?
     
  13. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    Her whole argument is rooted in true things exaggerated to a high degree, while also ignoring a ton of contradicting viewpoints to make her point seem like a universal fact when everything is much, much more nuanced than that. If society values women in a lifeboat, why is sexual assault routinely covered up? Why are women way more likely to get murdered, and those murders only covered in the news for white women? There are tons of holes in her simplistic approach, but it is sure to appeal to MRA types angry at women for wanting equality, and people feeling down like yourself when your brain is looking for someone to blame (Blame women! they are entitled and holding you back! be angry at and resent them and their fight for equality!). Its a simple trick and I'm glad you're at least well enough to see through it somewhat. Hoping you can be well man, here if you need to talk :heart:
     
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  14. PandaBear!

    Trusted Prestigious

    Thanks man, but I just want to make it clear that I do not blame "women" for my current problems - it's (almost) the exact opposite. Every issue I have can be traced back to the supposed role that the male is supposed to fulfil in society - a provider, a protector, strong social status/standing, strong both physically & emotionally etc. - I get upset when I don't match those expectations because I buy into those gender roles too. There are total losers I know of that are able to be happy with having no job, living with parents & even have fathered a child that they literally want nothing to do with, yet they can be happy? I literally do not understand how they can be?

    Women & dating don't even come into it for me because I feel I have nothing to even offer one based on my perceived failures. My only gripe would be towards people who keep those gender roles alive, whatever their gender (but mostly Alpha bros who force it so much even when its not 'natural' to them!)
     
  15. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    This is mostly nonsense. The examples she uses to demonstrate the protection and value of women is tethered to this idea of "women-as-property". It is not at all related to the view that they are a human, therefore, they are valuable. You value your PlayStation, you don't view it as equal. Further, it completely erases the experiences of women of color. In her understanding, white women are the stand-in for all women; however, it does not take into consideration how black women, for example, have historically been subjected to sexual violence, other forms of violent assault, which end in murder, and so on and so forth. All of this occurs at higher rates than their white counterparts, so I doubt they would view themselves as somehow protected. In any case, what one finds with this woman is someone who has internalized dominant patriarchal values, along with white supremacist understandings of what it means to be a woman, i.e., a white woman, one who cannot differentiate between the maintenance of property and caring for someone as their equal.
     
  16. aranea

    Trusted Prestigious

    Is she trying to say that the awful things that happen to women elsewhere in the world, and their lack of freedom, is because women are valued more...? I'm seriously confused...
     
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  17. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Woody Allen is disgusting

     
  18. aranea

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  19. PandaBear!

    Trusted Prestigious

    Guy is the fucking worst. Always liked Orson Welles' quote about him:

    "I hate Woody Allen physically, I dislike that kind of man. I can hardly bear to talk to him. He has the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge.

    ("He’s not arrogant; he’s shy")

    He is arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Everything he does on the screen is therapeutic"
     
  20. mena

    This whole box is Pepe Silvia! Prestigious

    3/4 of homicide victims worldwide are male. I know it's a small piece in a bigger argument, but I felt like it should be pointed out.
     
  21. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    bethany cosentino (best coast) was on daily show last night talking about sexism in the music idustry. I can't embed the link because the internet sucks sometines
     
  22. aranea

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  23. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

  24. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

    She shouldn't be in any position to make laws with that mindset. That might be the worst thing I have ever read about rape justification. I can't even wrap my brain around that it's so messed up.
     
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  25. Jake Gyllenhaal

    Wookie of the Year Supporter