General Politics Discussion (III) [ARCHIVED] • Page 790

Being this big of a piece of shit has to take a toll on the soul.

 

Not discussed enough imo.

 

Thread. Also fuck Bret Stephens.

 

Sorry >< been having an awful day

 

Come hang

 

*throws things*

 

I think those two words are my least favorite in the Republikkkan vernacular, and I hear them all the time now in reference to things based in facts. "Disagree with". No you fucking coke goblin, this isn't disagreement, it's literally what your stupid fucking death bill has outlined

 

I really feel bad for Bret Weinstein

 

I can't believe this is still going on.

 

Damn it rules how Democrats killed single payer in CA for no reason

 

“Even senators who voted for SB 562 noted there are potentially fatal flaws in the bill,” he said in a statement issued late Friday afternoon, “including the fact it does not address many serious issues, such as financing, delivery of care, cost controls or the realities of needed action by the Trump administration and voters to make SB 562 a genuine piece of legislation.

I mean there was a reason: It was badly written and too expensive for the state to do alone. From what I've read, that's true. This needs to happen at the national level for it to work. (Crippling costs in CA could lead to a stigma on the entire project.)

 

What we've been saying the whole time. And it's still happening... :(

 

I don't think your last sentence is true, Matt Bruenig has written a ton on how affordable - "eminently" - single payer could be for states like CA and NY at least

 

He's not the only one to say that either.

Is Healthy California economically viable? According to research I conducted with three colleagues at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, the answer is yes...

California will spend about $370 billion on healthcare in 2017. Assuming the state’s existing system stayed intact, the cost of extending coverage to all California residents, including the nearly 15 million people who are currently uninsured or underinsured, would increase healthcare spending by about 10%, to roughly $400 billion.

The state would still need to raise about $106 billion a year to cover the cost of replacing private insurance. This could be done with two new taxes.

First, California could impose a gross receipts tax of 2.3% on businesses, but with an exemption for the first $2 million of revenue. Through such an exemption, about 80% of all businesses in California — small firms — would pay nothing in gross receipts tax, and medium-sized businesses would pay an effective tax rate of less than 1%.

Second, the state could institute a sales tax increase of 2.3%. The tax would not apply to housing, utilities, food purchased for the home or a range of services, and it could be offset for low-income families with a 2% income tax credit.

Relative to their current healthcare costs, most Californian families will end up spending less, even with these new taxes, and some will even enjoy large gains. Net healthcare spending for middle-income families would fall by between 2.6% and 9.1% of income. Most businesses would also see a drop in spending. Small firms that have been providing health insurance for their workers will see costs fall by 22% as a share of payroll. For medium-sized firms, costs will fall by an average of between 6.8% and 13.4% as a share of payroll. Even most large firms will see costs fall, by an average of between 0.6% and 5% of payroll.

 

Mike lee thinks this bill is too much like Obamacare...

 

Coooool.