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Marvel: Legacy aka Hey that DC Rebirth thing was really successful, let's do that!

 

I mean, sure, publishers take inspiration from other publishers literally all the time. Welcome to comics; I hope you survive the experience!

Since I like Marvel's world, past and present, a lot more than DC's, and since Ribic is a better artist than everyone on the Rebirth one-shot, I'm guaranteed to like Legacy way more than Rebirth. And I liked that Rebirth one-shot a lot, so yeah, I'm really excited for Legacy, lol.

 

alright, i'm building up a spreadsheet of comics i want to read. dc and image coming along nicely, marvel is a bit trickier for me. i love ms. marvel, and i've also read hawkeye and some rocket raccoon. marvel has always been a huge blind spot for me, i think i finally want to dive into it a bit more.

really i'm looking to get into x-men (they're so damn cool but it's always seemed daunting to me to jump in) and spider-man. i'm looking for recs. with x-men, obviously new reader friendly would be great...

but not just those two, i'm looking for anything marvel that you think is good. i've added some from the first page recs to my list (superior foes, spiderman blue, uncanny x-men, vision), but looking for me.

paging @Tim @Henry and whoever else may be able to help.

edit: is grant morrison's run on x-men as confusing as his run on batman? haha i'm not a big fan of his batman run outside of a few stories.

 

Spent the better half of today catching up on Spider-Man (Miles). Yep still love it. All caught up and gonna try and stay that way.

Reading all of Spider-Gwen is next.

 

@xapplexpiex and @Tim will be your go to Marvel guys. I can't keep up with the majority of the books and basically just read anything with a female lead at this point.

 

I started with Grant Morrison's X-Men run and while i think it's good, i don't think it's exactly friendly to new readers. I think I'd suggest Whedon's Astonishing over that as a starting point. I think you could start with All-New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men from Bendis' as well though although you may want to read Avengers Vs X-Men first to understand whats going on there. Uncanny X-Force is fantastic as well.

For Spider-Man i think just going through all of Ultimate and then into the Miles Morales stuff is a great place to start. Then you can pick out whatever stuff from the main series interests you. I think Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Verse are great recent Spider-Man stories.

Also definitely read Vision. Just reinforcing that one, ha. Another two favourites for me are Jason Aaron's runs on Thor and Doctor Strange.

 

Marvel Exec Backpedals After Suggesting Diversity to Blame for Comic Book Sales Slump

Wtf

 

Morrison's New X-Men is probably my favorite run, but it's definitely a pretty wild ride, lol. I think it's new reader friendly in that you can make sense of it just fine if you only know the vaguest basics of the X-Men, but it's very much so a big, epic, Morrison-y tale, so take that into account.

Besides Morrison, the most beloved modern run is Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. It takes place after Morrison's run, but is also new-reader-friendly and could be a great starting point.

If you want classic X-Men, you've gotta read some of Claremont's run. The whole thing runs from I think the late 70s to the early 90s, which is... a lot. He's also very, very verbose. I'd say you should at least read the Dark Phoenix Saga, and then maybe Days of Future Past and God Loves Man Kills. His New Mutants run is also a favorite of mine.

My favorite underappreciated run is Bendis' Uncanny X-Men. If you don't like his slow, conversational style, you won't like it, but I love it. If you read Uncanny by itself via trades, you'll have an effective full story. If you wanna read the companion series All-New X-Men, you'll have to read it alongside Uncanny and make sure to include the Battle of the Atom crossover, as well as the Trial of Jean Grey story w/ Guardians of the Galaxy.

My other favorite underappreciated run is Marjorie Liu's Astonishing X-Men. Karma of the New Mutants is my favorite under-utilized mutant, so I love seeing her in a prominent role in it. Don't think it should be a top priority for you or anything, but it's something I personally dug, lol.

I haven't read Jason Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men yet (wanna get the last 2 trades I need before binging it), but I can say for sure that's a good one to check out, too.

@scottlechowicz can fill in some of the holes I have in my X-Men knowledge.

If you're checking out all the Spidey side characters, you should also read Silk. Great character, and initially great art (I wasn't a fan of the replacement in the second arc, but that's just me).

Also, Dennis Hopeless had a fantastic Spider-Woman run you should look into. Skip the first arc, which is an event tie-in with terrible Greg Land art, but after that, they gave her a new costume and art direction that was awesome. One of my personal favorites from Marvel in recent years.

Silk and Spider-Woman cross over with Spider-Gwen in the Spider-Women story.

 

This was a really weird and obnoxious story to watch unfold, which really proved how bad comic book journalism is.

The quote going around is terribly worded, but if you see the whole summit it's from, you see that they repeatedly said they have no plans to undo the progress they've made in representation. Even in the messy quote itself, they clearly say that diversity not selling is what they've been told, but they don't really believe it. But, people bitter over diversity and people justifiably wanting even more from them both responded to the poorly reported story in a way that's still echoing around comic book Twitter and the like. So wild.

Meanwhile, there are good conversations to have (like the need for more diversity amongst their writers) that are getting buried under this nonsense. Sigh.

 

Thank you @Tim and @SpyKi, I think I'll start with whedon's run and go from there!

Read Andy Diggle's Green Arrow Year One this morning, really enjoyed it. It was only the second Green Arrow story I've read, the other being Lemire's recent run. Definitely prefer Lemire's run, but part of that is Sorrentino's incredible art. I thought the villain in Year One was maybe a little under developed, I would have liked to have known a bit more about her. But I suppose it was an Ollie story and that's where the focus was.

 

@Tim @SpyKi do these two books contain whedon's entire run?

Astonishing X-Men Whedon Cassaday Ult Coll TP Book 1
Astonishing X-Men Whedon Cassaday Ult Coll TP Book 2

 

Yeah.

 

@Tim (last time I tag you for this morning I promise), I know you've been hyping up the current Silver Surfer run. If I want to check that out, should I go back to Vol. 1? This one.

 

Yes, you should, and yep, that's where it begins. Fantastic series.

 

i finally just read the dc rebirth special. i enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than i was expecting. totally fine with their explanation of the new 52 and whatnot, and i'm actually looking forward to seeing how the watchmen thing plays out.

 

any good jumping on points for the main titles in either DC/Marvel/Image? Got into comics around the new 52 time, but couldnt keep up with it all due to studying etc. Looking to get back into it.

 

So I bought two awesome prints. On from Maricio Tankara, which is of Superman, his son, Supergirl, and Krypto.

The other is from Patrick Gleason and it's just Superman.

If I can ever figure out how to post pictures, I will.

 

As far as I'm aware all image books are self contained so just pick up the first volume of anything that interests you. New 52 is a great point for Batman and i really like the New 52 Wonder Woman too. There's some Marvel recs above.

 

Trades or single issues? And any character preferences?

 

dc had a bit of a reboot last year called rebirth. you can pick up vol.1 (and even 2 for some) of most of the titles and you'd be fine to start there.

 

If you're looking for specific Image titles to check out, I definitely recommend Saga and Paper Girls. I've been bad at keeping up with some of their other titles, though.

 

and my favorite image series right now are as follows:

paper girls
black science
snotgirl
southern bastards

 

Back all of those and also I'll add Deadly Class, Tokyo Ghost and Seven to Eternity.

 

Second the Paper Girls rec, and add Kill or Be Killed. Snotgirl is fun, too.

 

Paper Girls is so goddamn good