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General Politics Discussion (III) [ARCHIVED] • Page 181

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 24, 2017.

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  1. Jose

    weightless in the valley

    The Venezuelan government is full of cowards and murderers who assault their own people in the hopes of keeping power. Maduro's refusal to move away from pure reliance on oil has tanked the Venezuelan economy, and in turn, the Latin American economy. This autocratic, nearly dictatorial move on Maduro's part will plunge Latin America (particularly the poor) into even deeper economic struggles and undermines all he and his party claim to stand for. The imprisonment of Leopoldo Lopez is wrong. While he may not be the best leader or politician to bring Venezuela back to a stable standing, it is clear that the attacks on human rights by the Venezuelan government cannot stand.
     
  2. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    He came up big today! Go Sawks!
     
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  3. Dominick Apr 20, 2017
    (Last edited: Apr 21, 2017)
    Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I have no problem with him seizing the plant. I'm a realist about Maduro, however, the opposition is thoroughly right-wing and want nothing more than to turn return Venezuela to a colonial territory of the IMF and other exploitative institutions.
     
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  4. Jose

    weightless in the valley

    I don't have a problem with him seizing the plant either. I am unsure as to what would be the best move going forward, but I also don't think we should permit continual atrocities to occur in the country.
     
  5. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

  6. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

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  7. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I think the best option is for the communal councils to be given power, and the forces on the left to organize on that basis.
     
  8. Another attempted socialist government is sabotaged and undermined by the capitalist system and its situation made untenable unless it concedes and falls in line with the global capitalist status quo and becomes a servant of the IMF or whichever. Of course, Maduro is a repressive authoritarian like all governors and him and Chavez are failed economists but its not like their economics are impossible - the comprador gulf oil states do just fine off of oil, slave labor, brutal repression and little else but oh yes, NATO and US support. Its a shame that any popular unrest in socialist states is necessarily channelled through these institutions which desire nothing less than to exploit that same populous to the maximum possible extent.
     
  9. Jose

    weightless in the valley

    A few people in councils I know (around the general area of Caracas) have been organizing heavily, although they are weakened as they are forced to receive approval for funds or whatever they need to do. It seems that if enough of the councils organize in conjunction, a national uprising would be just about inevitable.
     
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  10. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  11. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

    Doesn't Russia own that land now?
     
  12. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

    Fun Fact: 9 people died and like 600 something got salmonella bc Sonny Perdue cut budgets for the inspections of the equipment we use to grow crops and it was in the irrigation system. Peter Pan peanut butter I think it was? He also prays over droughts. We would get in trouble if caught with the sprinklers on and he was telling everyone to cut down on showers and shit. He's an idiot and I hope nothing big happens now that he's the head agriculture dude.

    He reminds me of the "..but Brondo has electrolytes.." people.


     
  13. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  14. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

  15. Jake Gyllenhaal

    Wookie of the Year Supporter

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  16. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

    If only lebron could've dunked on Connie Lawson tonight...
     
  17. Eh you say unadulterated sorrow, I say caucasian ennui. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to
     
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  18. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    what about Sofia Coppola?
     
  19. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    yes
     
  20. ugman_2000

    Trusted Prestigious

    :crylaugh:

     
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  21. armistice Apr 21, 2017
    (Last edited: Apr 21, 2017)
    armistice

    Captain Vietnam: Bestower of Tumors

    Organizing heavily as in more so recently? If so has the PSUV responded to it?

    And more information for everyone trying to learn about the situation.

    More background: From Radical Resistance to Propagating Imperialism: Latino/a Student Organizations and Venezuela I The Hampton Institute

    the podcast Dom rec'd the other day:


    More sources:







    George Ciccariello-Maher's Building the Commune: Radical Democracy in Venezuela and We Created Chávez: A People’s History of the Venezuelan Revolution and Decolonizing Dialectics
     
  22. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  23. Jose

    weightless in the valley

    Yeah, in the past 4 months, give or take? They've been in some minor leadership positions in some of the protests recently. The PSUV hasn't formally responded to it but they've received threats to the council as a whole and other similar things.
     
  24. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    Well, since Russia technically owns the entire U.S. with Trump in the White House, yes.
     
  25. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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