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If anything, Miz is probably in the match with the most crossover appeal, given how insane the Bella fanbase is. Plus when this becomes shown on Total Divas or Total Bellas, you're going to have people like my cousin who doesn't watch wrestling knowing who The Miz is

 

Indeed. I guess if WWE had known he was heading back to MMA and unwilling to take any risks they might have done it differently.

But, within 2 months of that match, Dean won MITB and the WWE title, and held it for 3 months while beating Roman clean.

Hilariously, its probably gonna be one of the biggest draws. In the same way Shane/Taker was last year.

 

Lol Marty cuts a great promo.

 

Matt is teasing a feud against The Elite in NJPW.

 

What if Matt comes back to WWE as Fixed Matt Hardy lol

 

Only if he wears ducktape

 

I watched some promos from when he was TNA champ and thought it was pretty terrible. I do not want him coming back as some boring version of himself.

 

Or a cone around his neck

 

Chael Sonnen claiming that Jack Swagger's been released

Its Chael, so it could very well not be true

 

So, Swagger goes right to TNA right?

 

Hopefully he cuts the same promo that he cut on smackdown

 

I'm honestly more disappointed by the fact that this means UUDD loses one of the top guys in their annual Madden tournaments. Farewell Oklahomie.

 

They never trusted him after he blew his Mania push by getting pulled over for DUI and possession. He blew it and ruined any momentum he had, as well as any faith the company had in him.

 

I think Eli Drake could be a big name way down the line, and maybe even a big player in NXT pretty quickly. Other than that, I agree with everyone above that EC3 def would have the best shot at making an immediate impact in WWE.

 

For those who don't know what is going on with TNA. A few guys are already locked in to new contracts:

Bobby Lashley, Moose, Eli Drake, Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards and EC3

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I keep seeing in topics people say things, such as, "wow, new TNA management must suck" or "Anthem must be really bad", or things along those lines which actually don't make much sense as there has been no indication, asides from Reby Hardy's outbursts that TNA's management has done anything ethically wrong, only that they have restructured the way in-which talent are paid which is the most likely reason as to why say Jade or Mike and Maria have now departed.

I don't even watch Impact or TNA and haven't been a fan in years - except for Total Nonstop Deletion and Hardyz related content, but that was like a sub-universe in some ways and was completely different to the routine TNA product - but having explained this to another user in the comments of another topic, the reason talent are departing is because they have gone from making "x" amount by appearances on episodes, to the same amount but for a days work. Essentially returning to TNA's old contract structure which was implemented by Jarrett during his previous tenure.

So, for example, lets say you're Matt Hardy and you are paid $10,000 per appearance on an episode of Impact and you feature on three episodes of Impact in a day of tapings, then Matt will make $30,000 for a days work. If TNA tape - as they do - a couple months worth of TV in two days and he appears on say seven episodes, then Matt makes $70,000 for two days work. However, under TNA's new payment structure, now Matt would only make $20,000 for two days work, because they'd be paying him for the day and not for appearances - so they will save thousands across the board.

This means a lot of talent will be paid shrapnel because the idea was they wouldn't make much for appearance, but if they made several appearances then it would be worth it. TNA also allowed the vast majority of their talent to work the indies in-order to make extra cash, which Jarrett is reportedly against as he wants talent locked down to exclusive contracts because he wants to start touring again. In laiman's terms, TNA has essentially been operating as a televised independent for the last couple of years - it's not an independent, its just been operating as one - and Jarrett wants to restore it to its former structure like when he was previously in-charge. This has annoyed talent because now TNA are trying to cut costs in-order to become financially viable and to be able to afford the costs of touring, which they haven't been doing the last few years.

So before you go blaming Jarrett or Anthem, do realize that what their doing is to better the company financially first before then trying to restore it partially to its former structure in-order to rebuild its size. If things are black and white, yes, losing The Hardyz, Bennett, Maria, Galloway and Jade all do suck - but if you were those talents, especially say Bennett or Maria who know they can go back to Ring of Honor and probably get their New Japan dates back too, or say Galloway who makes a ton of independent appearances anyways, you'd most likely leave too. But it's something that has to be done so that TNA isn't bleeding money, it just comes with these sacrifices that eventually had to be made.

For those who need a catch-up, here's a link referencing the original report which was from PWPopUp's and has been verified by Dave Meltzer as true.

 

Bye bye Jack Swagger.

 

Isn't the new formula how LU pays it's talent as well?

 

lol this is amazing

 

Because it will be a silly mixed tag match that leads nowhere... And it does nothing for him as far as title implications go. Taking Miz out of the IC title picture was a mistake IMO. Maybe the feud will be built up well enough, but I still think the whole couple vs couple thing ruins it.

 

it's unique. it's high profile. Miz did as much as he could with the IC title...i think this is fine and he can still go on the up and up after mania

 

Leg slap and everything. Kid has a future.

 

Swagger leaving isn't surprising. Literally every other healthy competitor on the Smackdown roster appeared on the last PPV.

 

Wouldnt surprise me if they no-competed him on TV for a little while, just because. We didnt see Cody on TV right away did we? Felt like it was 3-4 months before that. And the way TNA tapes, that might mean its July before we see Swagger there.