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The 89th Academy Awards (2017) Movie • Page 42

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by OhTheWater, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. ALT/MSC/FAN

    It's chaos. Be kind. Prestigious

     
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  2. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  3. ncarrab

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    It literally would have been no big deal at all, and if anything, would have added to suspense. The fact that he did anything other than that is inexcusable.
     
  4. ncarrab

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    I agree everything is very rushed in the end, which is comical, because those last 4 awards are really what 98% of viewers are tuning in for. The Oscars should take a page out of the Grammys' book and only air the top 8-10 awards and cut the show down to 2 or 2 1/2 hours. No one tunes in for sound mixing, costumes, make-up, etc. Did we really need to see Suicide Squad win an Oscar? That all could have been done pre-show.

    Last night was almost 4-hours long. That's just beyond unreasonable.
     
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  5. OhTheWater

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    Haha I mean I still wouldn't blame Beatty for what happened. I don't think he would've announced La La Land, it looked like he was showing Faye that it was wrong and she read it before he could say anything.
     
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  6. williek311

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    So happy for Jackie Chan.
     
  7. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

  8. One of the commenters on this article makes a good point: I wonder if the author thinks that Trump deserves the presidency, not to be hounded over sex allegations.

    The article is wrong for many reasons, but what irks me personally is that it's simply another of case of sweeping sexual assault (allegations or proven cases) under the rug. I think that anyone who has been assaulted in the past would read an article like this and get the impression that actors winning awards is more important than victims & survivors being listened to and taken seriously.

    "Affleck is not a sex offender and does not feature on the US sex offenders register yet he is now being mentioned in the same breath as director Roman Polanski, who pleaded guilty in 1977 to drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl when he was 43."

    Like come on, the number of abusers that are actually registered offenders is very small. This whole argument is gross to me.
     
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  9. stayillogical

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    Are there any recent allegations? I don't get why we're talking about something from 2010 that was settled in court. I can understand when someone hasn't answered for their crime, but he did. We can't stay on it forever. People can change. As long as it's not a pattern, and I see nothing new.
     
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  10. mad

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  11. delvec19

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    How did the drugdealer from Moonlight win best Supporting by the way? Wasn't he in that movie for like 15 minutes?
     
  12. Nathan

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    Casey Affleck was the best performance nominated in that category. He did not deserve the award. Award shows, intentionally or not, endorse their winners as artists and as people. I know it happened years ago and there was a settlement that required that everyone involved in the settlement not speak out about it, but too much from the incident is unclear to feel comfortable with his win. Especially after he danced around the allegations in his Golden Globe acceptance speech, where he talked about how the media will try to take you down or something. He could advocate for victims on the awards trail without directly violating the terms of his settlement agreement, and that would be one thing. But clearly, that's not what he did.
     
  13. Nathan

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    That's what a supporting role is. A smaller one than a lead role.
     
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  14. I really think that any of the actors in Moonlight could have been nominated. I'm not sure how they ended up with Mahershala as their nominee - not that I'm mad either - they were all great.
     
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  15. delvec19

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    Not THAT much smaller. Jeez.
     
  16. Colin Your Enthusiasm

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    Faye Dunaway
     
  17. Nathan

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    No, there's technically no size requirement (obviously, because Viola Davis won for a lead role in the supporting category). I think Michelle Williams was in less of Manchester by the Sea than Mahershala Ali was in Moonlight and she probably deserved the award in the supporting actress category. It's an award for roles outside of the lead that have incredible weight and power. Mahershala's was absolutely that.
     
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  18. delvec19

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    Actually think young Saroo should have been nominated instead of Dev Patel. Jeff Bridges and the Manchester kid played great roles as well. Also curious how well Michael Shannon was in Nocturnal, haven't seen that one yet.
     
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  19. Didn't @Jake Gyllenhaal post an article about nominees that had really short screen times?
     
  20. Anthony_

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    Mahershala was great and totally deserving, but I would have loved to see some recognition for Ashton Sanders' work as Chiron in the middle third of the film. His performance was so pivotal to the evolution of the character into what he became in Act 3, and was such a brilliant turn from such a relatively young actor. Really affected me a lot.
     
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  21. SmithBerryCrunch

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    I love this
     
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  22. OhTheWater

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    Yeah, I get on board with this. Casey Affleck had one of the better performances that I saw last year, period. That's the aspect of separating art vs. artist that I can handle. He gave a fantastic performance in a film that I really enjoyed. With that being said, the allegations against him make it impossible to rally around any sort of attention/support that he gets for his role. If he were to come out and apologize, make amends or even speak out regarding sexual abuse/victim's rights/anything like that, sure, we can go down the well of "people change", but he hasn't. And that's why I'm skeeved out that he was awarded/continues to receive recognition.
     
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  23. Anthony_

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    Speaking of brilliant turns from young actors, 2016 was absolutely full of them. Sunny Pawar, Ashton Sanders, Lucas Hedges, Hailee Steinfeld, Alex R. Hibbert, Jaden Piner, Jharrel Jerome, and so many more I'm forgetting, both ones that were nominated and otherwise.
     
  24. Surfwax

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    Just thinking about all 3 of them and Mahershala is making me so glad again it won. Agreed that Sanders was equally deserving, though Ali winning feels like an acknowledgment of the dinner scene which feels fitting, too. I might go see it in theaters again now that it'll probably get another week or two.
     
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