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Tour Prediction and Speculation Thread Tour • Page 672

Discussion in 'Tour Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

  1. Helloelloallo

    Trusted Supporter

    I COULD be off base, and I KNOW I'm being cynical, but the article to me really shows the casualness, and spectacle that live music has become these days. It seems every festival wants to cater to the influencers, and the trendy people who want OTHER people to know they were there vs actually wanting to go themselves, and that's apparently a huge market. Festivals aren't catering to music fans as much anymore, but trying to bring in experience fans and because that's been making them money, they're getting bigger and bigger, and costlier and costlier and well, is the bubble going to pop?

    I know I'm probably coming across as an old man, but not every festival has to have the who's who of pop stars, and experience tents, and huge architecture builds for insta photos etc. Half the pop stars they book haven't even been around long enough to hone their stage show beyond 'big production'.
     
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  2. peoplearepoison

    It’s a perfect day for letting go... Supporter

    It’s almost like the rich want the rich to get richer
     
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  3. bigstupidjellyfish

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  4. Phil507

    Resident NYC snob Supporter

    I don't think it's necessarily that every festival is trying to cater to influencers but more of an issue of trying to build these mass appeal events in a super fragmented media consumption world. Trying to get 50-60k people to stand around in a field for three days is a tougher ask in 2025 than it was in, like, 2011 so you essentially have to build a can't miss event and leverage star power which is expensive. Seems like the bubble is already bursting but it'll likely be a slow death over a few decades.
     
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  5. sleon.518

    idk man

    From what its looking like the fires didn't get to that part of LA but it could certainly change with the wind picking up
     
  6. somethingwitty

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  7. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

     
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  8. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

     
  9. Xpertguy5

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    Info on the new long beach amphitheater coming in tomorrow's long beach state of the city
     
  10. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

    Hey that’s cool news. Any word on shows being announced too?
     
  11. Xpertguy5

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    No but there is also a performance from an "historic" southern California band on that which will probably be playing at the new shed later this year
     
  12. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

    Sounds like Sublime
     
  13. ALT/MSC/FAN

    It's chaos. Be kind. Prestigious

    Date of that Mayday tour leaked: May 17, Royal Oak, MI
     
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  14. screwflanders

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    tickets for this webster hall show is $450+ on resale. hes hardly on the radio in the states. i dont get it. but if anyone reads this and happens to have an extra....
     
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  15. Mtlman1331

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    Fall of Troy doppleganger tour with closure in Moscow and A lot like birds date leaked for June 2025
     
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  16. Maddy

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  17. Blainer93

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  18. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

    Where are the fuckin’ NIN dates
     
  19. alkalinexandy

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    This "festival bubble's gonna burst" narrative has been in the news off/on for the last decade or so. It hasn't happened yet. It might, I guess, but they always seem to figure it out. The biggest issue is that they are each scraping and clawing to be massive and "sell out" every year which requires mass appeal and homogenity.

    Maybe if they took a step back a tier or two and just curate something really strong and a bit more targeted that goes deep rather than surface level? I get that isn't the point of those larger festivals, especially in the UK but still...

    I just look at all of the smaller festivals happening annually in the world of hardcore/punk/emo and they all have a few things in common: (1) they started small, (2) they had a specific vision and knew where the ceiling was for that vision, and (3) they stuck to that vision while finding ways to diversify the line-up each year.

    Obviously, there's a massive gap in draw between Outbreak Fest (or even Slam Dunk) and Reading/Leeds but... I can't help but wonder if we're talking too much about a "bubble bursting" and maybe just some of these mega-festivals needing to take a step back and re-think how they do things so that it's more sustainable rather than trying to top themselves every year.

    /rambling nonsensical rant
     
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  20. Joe4th

    Memories are nice, but that's all they are. Prestigious

    Fall of Troy really hate Michigan huh
     
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  21. Karlos12345

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  22. estacey99

    Oh yeah, oh yeah, everything is terrible.

    MCR Friday, NIN Saturday, Oasis Sunday, what a time to be alive
     
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  23. somethingwitty

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    festivals need to return to the counter culture and their ARTS focused past if they want to thrive.
     
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  24. btr

    Fan of Hammers Supporter

    Anyone have any info if Sad Summer is happening this year?
     
  25. Helloelloallo

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    I don't know when every one of these became a mass appeal event though. At some point, either live music fans stopped going, and they had to shift to attract experience folks who just like events and spectacle, or their expectations of how big these things needed to be just sprawled past the original intended ceiling. Also there's so many now so that doesn't help...