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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

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  1. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  2. somethingwitty

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/13/us/politics/latinos-trump-harris-poll.html

    Can someone who’s more familiar with the Hispanic culture explain this to me? I would have always assumed that this voter block would lean Democratic due to immigration reform, as I’m assuming a good portion of their families may have immigrated here.

    I don’t understand the support for Trump after all the terrible things he’s said about Hispanics. Is it a toxic masculinity thing?
     
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    Importer/Exporter

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    On a long enough timeline, immigrant populations often will eventually break along class lines and/or geographic trends like all other voters. Efforts to replace that with identity politics seldom if ever work.
     
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  5. St. Nate

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    toxic masculinity isn't actually a thing.

    but a lot of hispanics are white
     
  6. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  7. TheGuyfkaFringeofLunacy

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    So there is a few things that are generalizations for the broad Latino bloc. They are typically more ardently religious and in the cases of Cubans and what I would assume Venezuelans amongst others is that those that have immigrated to America are leaving "socialist/communist" governments and the propaganda of Democrats being socialist is more effective. I would also say you get people who say they immigrated the right way and that seems to drive them toward being anti-immigration. Though for the last point both parties have become pretty much the same policy wise but propaganda wise Republicans really hammer that bullshit.
     
  8. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    They think because they did things " the right way " everyone else should

    Also Miami Cubans have no beliefs besides communism bad
     
  9. David87

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    Everything I've read basically points to it being a combo of a bunch of different things, from toxic masculinity to "oh he's a businessman" to the good ole American virtue of i've got mine now let me pull the ladder up behind me, to the fact that many are religious and can have some socially conservative views due to that, and of course the point that as a demographic they're not a monolith, to the point where some identify as "white", and immigrants from different central/south american countries that are here tend to have different views, i.e. all the Cubans here being very anti "socialism" and all the fear mongering the Repubs did in Miami in 2020 around that issue and etc
     
  10. TheGuyfkaFringeofLunacy

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    The religiousness of Latinos is really astronomically high compared to the American general public and even inside that its Catholic that is the very dominant denomination.

    Black folks have high religiousness rates but it trends towards the older age groups and their dominant denomination is Protestant if I remember correctly when I looked at this years back.
     
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    I live in a heavy Mexican area and I am a quarter Mexican myself. Culturally they’re very conservative/religious and really the only republican talking point they’d be against is immigration- however there are tons of Mexicans that talk about how they made it here “the right way” and are still in support of stronger borders. If republicans weren’t so blatantly racist they’d have massive Latino support
     
  14. Leftandleaving

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  15. dylan

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    you have to look about an hour after sunset so closer to 7-730 to look west/southwest. there is an app called Night Sky that uses your phones camera and gyroscope to show you all the stars and constellations and has an AR feature that overlays with your camera and it has this comet featured so you know where to look for it.
     
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    Thank god! The hoops to jump through to cancel shit drives me nuts.
     
  17. RyanPm40

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    We're gonna have President Vance like a year into Trump's presidency
     
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  18. RyanPm40

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    I hope this applies to gyms, too. Having to go in to cancel Planet Fitness is absurd
     
  19. incognitojones

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    Loophole where places are going to be difficult to sign up for now
     
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  21. Greg

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    I have no idea if that’s real or not. It’s 100% possible to be real but it reads like a bit.
     
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  22. theagentcoma

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    lmao "If life gives you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them" is a bumper sticker I hope to see one day
     
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  23. Brother Beck

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    thank you very much!

    tonight is going to be the night!!!
     
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  24. Freud

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    I hate everything about this lol
     
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