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General Politics Discussion (XI) [ARCHIVED] World • Page 1410

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

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  1. Leftandleaving

    I will be okay. everything Supporter

    I mean, Biden is a historically unpopular incumbent who’s been forced out by his own party. It seems like it would behoove her to distance herself from him on this policy
     
  2. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    Which is why it’s so frustrating we didn’t get a primary
     
  3. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Hell, plenty of cops and military are registered Democrats. I have someone in my family who is all three of those things.

    (Still makes me mad though)
     
  4. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    If the decision was being made to represent the views of voters, then sure. But when it's being made to appease donors and special interests then I don't think that's true.
     
  5. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    You wanted Barack's guy Deval Patrick, didn't you?
     
  6. Freud

    Immortals with no morals, and no hang ups Prestigious

    When did I ever say it's not a genocide? Exactly. So don't put words on my mouth.

    So what would you have me call it? Or better yet what would you call it? We both agree it's a genocide. Calling it a single issue is not dismissing it contrary to what you think. When people here are basing their decision whether to vote based on THAT factor and THAT factor alone guess what, that's a single issue. Genocide is the single issue. I never once said people need to get over it either, it's their prerogative to be a single issue voter.
     
  7. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

     
  8. MysteryKnight

    Prestigious Prestigious



    Lol what?
     
  9. mintplusplus

    Trusted

    I think it’s kind of dismissive to call people who oppose genocide and withhold their vote “single issue voters.”

    I think it’s better to refer to them as “people who are abstaining from voting for some reason.” Because, genocide is a reason and that reason is why they’re abstaining. It is a technically accurate description.

    Back to the topic on hand, we have a lot of Americans who are ready to be the adults and vote for Democrats and then we have a lot of people who are abstaining from voting for some reason. I think we know which are the adults.
     
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  10. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    I think what upsets people is calling a genocide a "single issue" inherently devalues the seriousness of what a genocide is and entails. It's not something comparable to student loans or taxes, it's the systematic extermination of human beings.

    And this isn't even about what you mean by what you say personally, it's the overall way this has been devalued in our general society. We have people on camera covering their ears when hearing names of dead children. Every single one of those people needs to be
     
  11. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    Think about it from his perspective. His administration's position is that women should not have reproductive rights, those should be decided by the (men of the) state, and that the best thing for women is to be subservient to men and give men control over their rights and bodies. And that's exactly the policy his administration would implement if given the chance!
     
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  12. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    No tell us, who are the adults
     
  13. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    the idea that it’s the responsible adults voting for the people helping Israel carrying out a genocide and not crazed ideologues is wild
     
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  14. mintplusplus

    Trusted

    Well, on one side, you have the adults who are voting for Democrats and not not voting for some reason.

    And, on the other side, you have very non-adult people who are not voting for some reason.

    I won’t tell you which are the adults but I feel like anyone reading, just from looking at the facts, can tell which are the adults. And the fact that it’s that obvious underlines how the adult side is self-evidently adult.

    (But I will tell you I’m being sarcastic)
     
  15. GROW UP and realize that sometimes genocide is just the price of uh...debt forgiveness for pell grant recipients who open small businesses
     
  16. MysteryKnight

    Prestigious Prestigious

     
  17. Freud

    Immortals with no morals, and no hang ups Prestigious

    That's why I'm seriously asking what it should be called. I'm not trying to devalue it, because it IS a serious issue. It's nowhere comparable to those things you mentioned, hell it's not comparable to ANYTHING. But it being the sole decision-maker in their decision to vote, maybe I'm being too literal? Because if they're basing whether or not they're voting on a single issue....that's why I call it a single issue. Because the decision is being made based on one factor.

    Oh. Oh no. LOL

     
  18. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    after 20 years*
     
  19. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    Oh, well I'm glad you cleared that up.
     
  20. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    Oops, the Supreme Court said no, so now you get genocide AND no loan forgiveness. Thanks for voting. Next time can you try voting harder?
     
  21. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    I'm going to go with this. I understand your logic, but some things are too big to be boiled down without being offensive.
     
  22. I Am Mick

    @gravebug Prestigious

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  24. Freud

    Immortals with no morals, and no hang ups Prestigious

    Thank you for being the first to admit to understanding logic.

    And for anyone else, I'm not devaluing neither your line of reasoning for voting or the genocide I'm simply describing the act of voting solely based on one issue.
     
  25. bigmike

    Trusted Prestigious

    Hey listen the DNC convention was not aimed at democrats they have to appeal to everyone else what do you wannnnnnt
     
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