Invasion of Ukraine • Page 156

maybe they should hold a referendum there and ask people which country they want to be part of, because that is a very legal and not at all fucking stupid thing do

 

for the 3rd time in just this thread, pointing out that the US did not take the steps it would have if it was committed to preventing a Russian invasion of Ukraine is not providing excuses for the invasion

yes. lol

 

Ukraine War: A Reverse Cuban Missile Crisis

Shortly thereafter, I participated in a Top Secret Department of Defense war game, designed by Professor Thomas Schelling of MIT in which he set out a scenario of a sequence of events — ironically placed near Ukraine — to show that the USSR would accept an American nuclear attack without responding.

In the post mortem discussion of the Game, I argued and my military, intelligence and diplomatic colleagues on our war game team agreed with me that the idea of limited nuclear war was nonsense. No government could accept a devastating attack and survive. If it did not retaliate with a “victory-denying response,” it would be overthrown and executed by its own military and security forces.

Twenty years later, in 1983, a second Department of Defense war game (code named “Proud Prophet”) in which I did not participate and which was heavily weighted to the military confirmed what I had argued in 1962: there was no such thing as a “limited” nuclear war if both sides were armed with nuclear weapons. Limited nuclear actions inevitably ended in all-out war.

So to summarize:

–It is almost certain that neither the American nor the Russian government could accept even a limited attack without responding.

–There is no reason to believe that a Russian government, faced with defeat in conventional weapons, would be able to avoid using nuclear weapons.

–Whatever attempts are made to limit escalation are likely to fail and in failing lead to all out war.

–And, the predictable consequences of a nuclear war are indeed an unimaginable catastrophe.

 

Yesterday Lipetsk Airfield ammo dump completely kaboomed

 

Good analysis

https://open.substack.com/pub/phillipspobrien/p/the-ukrainian-kursk-offensive?r=zirn&utm_medium=ios

 

Beijing admits Chinese ship destroyed key Baltic gas pipeline ‘by accident’

 

Probably an air-burst mortar

 

“No one forced us or dragged us to the army draft office”

 

Checking out this account, it appears the vast majority of its coverage is dedicated to Israel/Iran, so I wouldn’t necessarily classify it as a “pro-Ukraine” account. Shitty dude nonetheless

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/...explosion-germany-ukraine-arrest-warrant.html

 

Crazy that we're starting to finally hear this thought process out in the open

In the studio, Solovyov suddenly started talking about Russia’s defeat in the war (video)

 

Ukraine pursues retired NATO fighter pilots to fly new F-16 fleet

 

Russia should launch nuclear strikes on New York, London—Russian pundit