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Jorge Ben Band

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by cshadows2887, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. cshadows2887 Apr 13, 2016
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    cshadows2887

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    Jorge Duilio Lima Menezes (born March 22, 1945), known as Jorge Ben Jor, is a Brazilian popular musician. His characteristic style fuses samba, funk, rock and bossa nova with lyrics that blend humor and satire with often esoteric subject matter. Some of his hits include Chove Chuva, Mas Que Nada, Ive Brussel, Balança Pena, among others, and have been interpreted by artists such as Caetano Veloso, Sergio Mendes, and Marisa Monte

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  2. cshadows2887 Apr 13, 2016
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    cshadows2887

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    First time with this one. I can totally see why people call this his best. It has a wonderfully orchestrated vibe in a way nothing else I've heard from his does. He's just so damn versatile that you never care that you can't understand the language.
     
  3. George

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    I need to hear more of him, I'm only properly familiar with Africa Brasil, but that's bloody wonderful.
     
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  4. cshadows2887

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    Be patient and you will have a great excuse to. Hint hint. Haha
     
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  5. FeynmanWannabe

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    I have a bunch of his albums, all of them great. Still have more exploring to do.
     
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  6. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Glad to see you made the move over, man.
     
  7. cshadows2887

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    Jorge Ben
    In honor of a Brazilian Olympics, a Brazilian legend. Aligned somewhat with Tropicalia, and mixing samba, funk, rock and bossa nova, there's so much to explore and love in his sound.

    Recommended Listen:
    A Tabua de Esmeralda

    Crash Course:
    1. A Tabua de Esmeralda
    2. Forca Bruta
    3. Africa Brasil

    Compilation Replacement:
    Minha Historia

    Personal Note:
    Hardly an expert here, but the 3 in the crash course are legitimately wonderful. Jorge Ben from 1969 is a bit tamer and less ambitious, but still really wonderful. And Gil e Jorge is a little long for me, but also thrillingly improvisational and exciting. If you find any other treasures in his catalog, speak right up and educate everyone (myself included).
     
  8. cshadows2887 Aug 9, 2016
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    cshadows2887

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    Listened to (what I think is) his debut, Samba Esquema Novo and it's absolutely wonderful. More straightforward samba and less genre hopping ambition than usual, and that focus is thrilling.
     
  9. George

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    Nice! Been holding off on listening to anything other than Africa Brasil because I knew he'd be coming up in one of these weekly things. Really looking forward to delving deeper, because Africa Brasil is incredible.
     
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  10. George

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    Also, he's the perfect soundtrack to the olympics right now.
     
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  11. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Totally why I picked him. Decided I want to crash course myself on Brazilian music during these olympics
     
  12. George

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    Anything else good you'd recommend? I know Gal Costa and Os Mutantes off the top of my head, but that's basically where my Brazilian music knowledge ends.
     
  13. cshadows2887 Aug 9, 2016
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    cshadows2887

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    Well Jorge Ben obv.

    Listened to Moacir Santos' Coisas yesterday and totally fell in love with it. I adore both Antonio Carlos Jobim albums I've heard, particularly Wave. Getz/Gilberto, I'm sure you know but I heard and liked his album Joao this last week. And I dig Elis Regina's Como and Porque.

    I'll let you know if I find other good shit.
     
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  14. George

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    Listened to A Tabua de Esmeralda this morning. It's the absolute worst music for sitting in an office on a grey day in Cardiff! It is absolute perfect beach weather this, just really breezy and pleasant in the nicest possible way. It's a little more mellow than Africa Brasil and definitely less funky and more folky, reminds me a little (maybe...) of Simon & Garfunkel at times. He's a really stupendous vocalist, seeming very languid and laid-back at times, but with the chops and talent to demonstrate his ability. There's lots of lovely little bits of instrumentation dotted about here that I enjoyed too. It's a great album, and well worth the wait.

    Listening to music in a foreign language is interesting, because the vocals essentially become another instrument. With no lyrics to latch on to, you just have to appreciate the sounds of the language, which I think sometimes makes listening to "world" music a bit of a passive experience at times. That's not a bad thing at all, but I definitely find it quite an interesting experience every time.
     
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  15. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    I have this exact feeling about foreign language music. It feels very much like listening to jazz, where there's a lead instrument that draws you, but doesn't demand the same slavishly constant attention as lyrics you can understand do.
     
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  16. George

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    Listened to Samba Esquema Novo, and I agree with Chris, that its really great to hear a taut, focused album from him. Not that his other stuff is particularly meandering or anything, but there's something great about a 30 minute, completely concise album.

    Not entirely sure what genre to call it, if its samba or boss nova or just jazz, but it's great stuff. Instrumentally engaging, and he's got an absolutely wonderful voice, particularly the last few moments of "Mas Que Nada", where he really stretches his range. It's less percussion-driven than the other two I've heard from her, instead focusing on on dancey, upbeat horns, with Ben's subtle rhythmic guitar work. It's just a straight up lovely album, no real "Holy shit!" moments, but a collection of very well-written and performed songs. No complaints whatsoever here.
     
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  17. cshadows2887 Aug 14, 2016
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    cshadows2887

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    Listened to O Bidu today. Just as excellent as his other material. Not quite into the genre-blended, semi-psych arena yet, and has a very distinct 60s sound. Also nice to hear the genesis of his addition of rock elements
     
  18. cshadows2887

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    Revisiting A Tabua de Esmeralda and jesus christ it's incredible. I've just never heard vocals like these and the effortless blend of so many genres. It doesn't matter one bit that I don't understand the words. I understand the feeling.
     
  19. OotyPa

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    Seeing that there’s no thread strictly for tropicalia, I will drop in here and say it has been dope learning and opening myself up to this genre/era. I just started digging in three days ago and have already listened to some staples and I’m blown away.
     
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  20. cshadows2887

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    I certainly have no expertise in it, but I do LOVE everything I've heard. Just such a thrilling combination of sounds and ambitions.
     
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  21. OotyPa

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    Some of my favorites of the last few days:

    Chico Buarque - Construção
    Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube da Esquina
    Caetano Veloso - S/T (‘66)
    Caetano Veloso - S/T (‘69)
    Gal Costa - S/T
    Gal Costa - S/T / “Cinema Olympia”
    Egberto Gismonti - Água & Vinho
    Egberto Gismonti - Corações Futuristas
    Joyce Moreno, Naná Vasconcelos, Mauricio Maestro - Visions of Dawn

    Not tropicalia but I also really enjoyed Antônio Carlos Jobim’s Wave, Luiz Bonfa’s work, and started listening to a Daniel Grau compilation which struck me as a Venezuelan take on tropicalia.

    Would love any and all suggestions from here. Obviously need to check out Jorge Ben Jor’s work since we’re literally posting in his thread lol.
     
  22. cshadows2887

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    You have a few I really like there and a few I need to hear.

    For Jorge Ben I'd say A Tabua de Esmeralda and Africa Brasil are no-brainers.

    I'm not the biggest Os Mutantes guy compared to Ben and Costa and Veloso, but their s/t is a tropicalia staple.

    It seems to go back and forth on whether they're considered technically Tropicalia, but Novos Biainos's Acabou Chorare and Chico Buraque's Construcao are really good ones I see cited a lot.

    How fuckin' good is Wave? The perfect summer album
     
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  23. OotyPa

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    Just gave A Tabua dr Esmeralda a listen and it rules. Currently on Jorge Ben as my next listen. Africa Brasil is next!
     
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  24. OotyPa

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    It’s fantastic. The most chill.

    You should check this one out. According to this dude’s bio, he was one of the early big bossa nova figures but got overshadowed over time. His later albums are more experimental and jazz-fusion-y, but this one has that signature Wave sound.

     
  25. cshadows2887

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    Oh I've heard of Bonfa. He and Jobim did the music for Black Orpheus, which is one of my all-time favorite movies. Absolutely will be checking that album out. Thanks for the tip!
     
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