Sum 41 - Heaven :x: Hell (March 29, 2024) • Page 15

I like 13 Voices a lot. OID isn't my fav but still has some great tracks!

 

13 Voices has some really high highs like Fake My Own Death, Goddamn I’m Dead, God Save Us and Rise and Fall. Those are some of the greatest SUM41 songs. Rest is rather Bside material.

Order In Decline is just straight boring.

Heaven side fuxking rules and has no weak songs, I said that already but Hell has two bangers I actually really like and I’d put them side by side with my favorites from 13V and those are I Don’t Need Anyone and Over The Edge.

rest sounds like mix of SBM/OID material which I don’t really care for much.

 

SBM is such a good album, apart from a couple tracks that don't really fit in imo. Sick of Everyone has grown to be one of my favorite Sum songs. Back Where I Belong is a great closer.

 

Twisted by design is also awesome.

 

Aside from your exclusion of Twisted by Design among the better tracks on the album, I agree that 13 Voices is uneven. I also agree that Order in Decline is mostly forgettable, but it's bookended by two songs I still enjoy; Turning Away and Catching Fire.

 

Listened to most of Order In Decline on my drive home and I'm honestly flabbergasted by the takes in here.

Not only is the album much better than 13 Voices from a production standpoint, but it's also better from a songwriting standpoint and feels the closest they've come to following up Chuck.

I feel like maybe I should chalk this up to me identifying Sum 41 by that sound way more than their pop-punk side. All Killer was great, but DTLI going into Chuck felt like Sum 41 really finding themselves an identity of their own that I absolutely resonated with.

Order In Decline is way more my jam of what I wanted out of Sum than say, Underclass Hero.

 

Struggling to find a leak still if anyone can help out!

 

I agree with this take, absolutely.

 

I'm right there with you.

 

i found the drip but the link didn't work, can someone dm me?

 

Drugs aren't the answer.

 

Me too if anyone's feeling generous.

 

I cannot believe the amount of sinning going on in this thread

 

I'm doing my discography runthrough myself and I don't care what people say, UH and SBM make up my top three albums by them (with Chuck being #1). I fucking love those albums

DLTI is better than AKNF too tbh. Still need to listen to the two more recent ones, I haven't returned to either of those much since they came out

 

I know it will never be considered their best, but it does make me happy that UH does seem to have gotten a better reception as time has gone on.

 

the chorus on Speak of the Devil been killing me recently, one of their best

 

Personally, I don't dislike Underclass Hero, and time has caused me to re-evaluate it over the years, but at the time it just wasn't what I wanted from Sum 41, especially coming off Chuck. I also was a little unreasonably salty that the title track redid a bonus cut from Chuck, which is something I don't think I've ever seen any other artist do.

 

Totally fair

 

Possibly the best song on the album

 

Subject to Change >> Underclass Hero, but it's not unheard of for bonus tracks to get reworked. I can think of quite a few examples in pop-punk alone

 

I know leftovers get saved for future albums all the time, but I can't off the top of my head think of a commercially released bonus track that was then redone into a completely different song for another album, much less the lead single.

If you've got examples, throw them out by all means.

 

Ahh yes and it features the No Reason bridge lol

 

Fire Down Below by Alkaline Trio reused a bridge part for Heart Attacks like ten years later. The Machine from Angels & Airwaves first album has the same riff as Even if She Falls by blink (not going into all the other times Tom has reused riffs lmao we'd be here all night). I think Fall Out Boy's My Songs... has bits that date back to like Cork Tree era

it does happen basically is my point lol