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General Politics Discussion (XI) [ARCHIVED] World • Page 375

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

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  1. Importer/Exporter

    he’ll live forever in the sound of broken glass Supporter

    People walking around calling themselves a success story lol dude’s haters are his waiters at the table of success
     
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  2. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    self loathing racist with lgbt friends
     
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  3. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    who fuckin suxxxx
     
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  4. nohandstoholdonto

    problem addict Prestigious

    fwiw, this is where I have been at for the past few months as a trans woman who will very much be in way worse of a position under a Trump admin (tho I think it is trending worse regardless of Trump, just that also think it would accelerate under him and embolden transphobia in our culture even more than it is now).

    the things I have seen and read these past few months re: this issue have shaken me to my very core and changed me in fundamental ways as a human being. I talked a big game about not voting for Biden last go around, for admittedly much less dire reasons than what we’re faced with now, and yet I held my nose and voted for him in a last minute decision at the ballot anyway. I don’t think I can bring myself to do that now, the thought makes me genuinely sick to my stomach. he is an evil, evil fucker. and ultimately I believe he and the entire party he represents only use my rights as a bargaining chip rather than actually caring about them in a meaningful way, which is fucking insulting. feels difficult for me to justify shaming people to vote for Biden to protect me as a trans/queer person in america and ignore what he is doing re: Gaza to do so. right now it just does not feel like the time, and quite frankly comes off as tone deaf. and the argument that Trump would be worse for Palestinians, actually doesn’t make much sense to me right now because it doesn’t get worse than genocide. if Biden doesn’t significantly change his policy on Israel NOW (or really, months ago…), those people will be wiped off the map, I don’t think Trump is even a factor in that case because they will not even make it to a Trump term at this rate.

    I understand the desperation people feel right now about this because I feel it too, I just think the people to blame are the ones in power/vying for power, not those unwilling to vote for them.
     
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  5. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I think other groups of people may have the same thoughts about importer or whoever saying “what else are you doing to help people?” though. Like I think sometimes people saying that don’t realize it flows both ways. There’s lots of groups of people out there that are probably terrified of a Trump 2 admin and they’re seeing people saying “no it’s not worth voting because of Palestine, because even if you do vote, what else are doing to help all marginalized people?” and they’re thinking “well wait…you can’t even be bothered to vote to help out people like me, so…what else are YOU doing to help out people like me if you’re not voting to do so?”

    I think this made sense lol
     
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  6. Daniel

    Party Mom Supporter

    I completely understand people not voting for Biden for moral reasons. I don't believe not voting for him is an intrinsic vote for Trump. But I still think it's dumb to say, because things are bad, that they can't get demonstrably worse faster for large groups of people with Trump in office.
     
  7. David87

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  11. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  12. the "i built generational wealth" guy being the "uncancel jesse lacey" guy is too much for getting over a cold brain today
    my head really fucking hurts
     
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  13. those siblings look 12
     
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  14. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

     
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  15. Coonsatron

    Old APer Supporter

    Oh man I love projects.
     
  16. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    agreed, that is how a 12 year old white boy and girl age
     
  17. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    Blue devils person is clearly a joke account because Italians aren’t real.
     
  18. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    The Sopranos is high fantasy. New Jersey is like Middle Earth or Westeros
     
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  19. David87

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    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Shakriel

    I wanna feel like I feel when I'm asleep. Prestigious

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  21. David87

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    [​IMG]
     
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  22. then why is my hair going gray this sucks
     
  23. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    you know, natty sauce can help with that
     
  24. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

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