Hot Mulligan - Why Would I Watch (May 12, 2023) Album • Page 11

It is a difficult one. But to give some current context. Hot Mulligans show here in Scotland, has just been upgraded from a venue that had a similar capacity to venue TWY last played here. Their new venue is double the size. I would say overall, much the same but HM definitely has momentum internationally that I'm not sure TWY has at the moment.

 

Kind of crazy to think that they've really only done one proper US headline tour since You'll Be Fine came out (Fall - 2021). I saw them play about a 600-cap venue headliner in Cleveland a year and a half ago. Pretty sure it was sold out. I think they could easily play double that now and even bigger venues in bigger cities.

They have hopped on a lot of tours to gain exposure throughout the past few years. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised they aren't even bigger than they are now. They have kind of had this 'ready to blow' vibe surrounding them for a few years now.

 

I absolutely love Hot Mulligan and think they're the best of the current generation along with Knuckle Puck, but no one will ever be the next TWY.

No band, other than maybe blink, had the sort of impact TWY had on this scene in the late 00s-early 10s. The run from Upsides to TGG will never be beat, and if you were on AP.net at that time, i cannot understand how massive and important the band was for us and still continues to be.

 

I agree so why do they "only" have 500k monthly listeners? And why are the new generation skipping out on their sets? Respect your elders Gen Z!!

 

Because Gen Z will be the downfall of all us :P

 

It's only happened a couple of times for me, but whenever I see a sizable amount of people leave before the headliner it bums me the fuck out.

I most viscerally remember it happening on the Finch 10 Year What It Is To Burn anniversary tour after DGD (Who, I was also mostly there for, but Finch's set was a damn blast)

 

When I saw Andy Hull and Dustin Kensrue in Baton Rouge in 2017, I think 75% (maybe more) left when Andy's set was over. I felt really shitty for Dustin.

I didn't see too many people leave the TWY show in Chicago after HM's set. A ton of people were even there to see Carly Cosgrove.

 

I use Apple Music do you think Spotify counts that

 

Honestly couldn't name a TWY song.

That said, while we're talking about people walking out, I am almost certain TWY opened up for The Early November in like, 2012 and I was stunned to see most of the crowd leave after TWY before TEN went on, which was essentially a reunion tour.

 

was that the tour with The Swellers too? god I wish I could have gone to that one

 

Yeah, I just looked it up to make sure I was talking about the right memory, haha. I just went for TEN, and caught the end of TWY's set and remember most of the people leaving. It was House of Blues Cleveland and to this day, I don't think I have ever seen it as empty for a headliner as it was that night for TEN.

 

In Currents & Imbue are the only TEN records I've gotten into, and I never got to see The Swellers at all before they split

every crowd I've seen TWY with has been hot for them, even the weird tour they opened in like 2014 with All Time Low, Pierce The Veil and A Day To Remember

 

Crowds leaving early sucks for bands. The worst case I’ve ever seen was when Citizen opened PBC’s last tour. I’d say 75 percent of the crowd left after Citizen. PBC still killed it, but I felt bad for the band that the place cleared out so much.

 

Ooooooof that’s a crazy lineup now knowing what we know

 

I can't handle the thought of people leaving anybody's set if it's not for a. the last train home if it's late and they're too young etc., b. not supporting scumbags. I will never get that, especially having to travel long distances to catch any shows per usual.

 

I saw Beach Bunny/Pup co-headline last night and BOY did that crowd thin out after Pup. It wasn’t like empty or anything, but I did feel bad.

That feels like another case where Beach Bunny’s huge streaming numbers don’t necessarily equate to them having a huge live draw.

 

Yup. I remember this. Half the crowd left after TWY on my date.

 

PUP played before beach bunny? that seems shocking to me

 

Yeah it was a shame. I wish more of the Pup crowd had stuck around, feel like a lot of them probably would dig beach bunny!

 

In my head, without fail, I always see bad bunny instead of beach bunny

 

Didn’t realize they were separate tbh

 

Pretty painful ;u and I could actually consider The Early November one of the strongest bands of the DTR era, funnily enough to some extent their crew quite definitely had (still have) a fair share of influence on TWY's success

 

When I went to the TWY/HM tour in March, a few people left after HM but most just left the pit and hung further in the back. Coincidentally, that's when the show got a lot less violent/rough (but still with a ton of energy.)

I absolutely love Hot Mulligan but their fervent crowd was not my crowd and seemed to skew toward the kind of pop-punk bands I strongly dislike, just based on who I heard people talking about before their set.

 

I didn’t go to pup beach bunny last night but I probably would have left after pup. I’m sorry but I’m old.

 

There are kids at those shows who were potentially just born when The Upsides came out in 2010. Upsides is 13 years old. I definitely get not liking TWY if you didn't grow up with them like a lot of us did. Me, for instance, being a college freshman when it came out, it felt like each album to an extent was talking about stuff that was extremely relevant to me at the time, especially the most recent with being a father.