boygenius - The Record (March 31, 2023) • Page 38

The whole thing had me going “who hurt you?” lol

 

I thought this was a band record in the sense that they all worked on the songs together, not just each wrote individual songs and brought them in and recorded them together... Why are so many people talking about the songs where one of them is singing lead as '_______ songs'...???

 

Idk “Emily I’m Sorry” is one of my favorite Phoebe songs.

 

I think, knowing each of the artists very well, it’s pretty easy to pinpoint who wrote each song, but I do think it does a bit of a disservice to the project to just reduce everything to their individual components.

 

Exactly, to an extent we don't really know who brought the ideas, riffs etc., it does sound like you can pinpoint most of that, but the the concepts themselves might be more collaborational in the bigger picture than it seems

 

For sure. I imagine if the demos each of them brought went to their next solo records instead of this project they could have ended up a lot differently.

 

Imagine thinking that they didn't help each other on every song even if one is singing the lead, good lord

 

I haven't read all of the press about the album but I did think I remembered reading that they approached it as an actual band, like that was one of the driving ideas of the whole thing.

 

So what’s up with everyone up in arms about Leonard Cohen?

 

I don’t know enoug about Leonard Cohen to have an opinion, but I did see this.

 

I get how the line could be a bit much for people, but it’s very obviously a joke. The whole song is kind of a silly friendship like, and it reads like an inside joke more than a genuine proclamation.

 

I didn’t have Leonard cohen Twitter coming after boygenius on my bingo card for the album release

 

The eventual SNL appearance is going to be amazing.

 

I don't mind the line but the execution doesn't work for me at all

 

yeah i definitely raised my eye at the line but it's moreso that i find the delivery/execution of it incredibly clunky than thinking anyone would be offended by it lol

as someone who thinks Cohen was maybe the best lyricist of all time, a big part of that is how obviously he didn't take himself too seriously

 

i love leonard cohen and feel he would agree with that characterization of himself

 

the backlash army is out lol

 

I don't love the line but it's more of a passing shrug from me... I also know shit all about Cohen in all honesty.

Anyway I've sung the praise of plenty of Say Anything tracks so I can't say anything.

 

The line is great and funny

 

It was one of the rare lyrics that stuck out like a sore thumb on first listen to me, but I can’t imagine being mad at it unless I had some predisposition to dislike boygenius or something. I literally thought nothing of it until reading it in text which made me laugh

 

I mean, the way some people are talking about this record, you’d think they are saying slurs, and the Leonard Cohen line is an easy “low point” (which is so debatable) to latch onto.


(I fully recognize it’s almost universally critically-acclaimed and the haters are a small, small minority, but it’s the way in which some detractors are talking about it that’s making me feel insane)

 

I read through a lot of the quote tweets from that tweet I posted above and it definitely does seem like *some* people are just looking for a reason to hate on boygenius. I even saw some people trying to pin the lyric on Phoebe even though a) she did not sing it and b) we do not know who wrote said lyric.

I think there's a difference between finding the line clunky, or not vibing with the song (which people here are doing), and veering into finding any reason to criticize the band and lashing out at the band because of whatever hatred you already had of them, which I feel some of the people on Twitter are doing, if that makes any sense.

 

Satanist and Anti-Curse are great.

 

This is the unfortunate reality of Phoebe's sudden growth in popularity and the detractors it's also brought. The number of people trying to bring her down somehow, as if they can get some "gotcha" moment, is absolutely insane.

 

I saw a tweet responding to that like ‘which 1975 song is this.’ Thought that was funny. That’s the extent to which I care