Avatar: The Way of Water (James Cameron, December 16, 2022) Movie • Page 42

I still need to see this a second time.

 

I still need to see this a fourth time

 

Well when are we going?

 

Brother, it's not like we're far from each other lmao. I should be visiting for my birthday in a few weeks

 

lol that’s why I asked!

 

James "Triple-Double" Cameron

 

Impressive. Only 3 directors have passed $2 billion.
Cameron x3
Russo Bros x2
Abrams

 

You guys need to do this

 

I could look it up but what has Abrams done that made that much?

 

star war

 

Oh duh

 

Doesn’t count then

 

Can’t wait til the rest of the Avatar movies makes that stat like

Cameron x6 lol

 

Eh not so sure about that there lol This one is probably ending about $400-500 million less than the first Avatar worldwide at the current rate it’s climbing. Not sure the other films will have a bigger push unless the story is highly more engaging.

 

The track record of her characters in those films isn't the best, but I nonetheless love that for her. Get that colorful alien money.

 

betting against, are we

 

I finally saw this over the weekend and thought it was pretty good/fine overall. Obviously its visually stunning and a technological feat but this is still a movie and the story felt pretty surface level and tropey overall. The stuff with the jesus girl was the most interesting suplot to me and they kinda just teased it in this movie. Also I could've used some more subtitles throughout this. I could not remember a single character's name outside of Jake and Neytiri, might be a personal problem though. Neytiri also felt very sidelined in this movie. Seemed like they had very little for her character to do outside of being a stern parent. Some of the kids felt very very underdeveloped too so by the end when certain plot points come about for them, I really had no emotional stakes in those moments (Spoiler: The death of their oldest son). I thought Sigourney voicing a teenage girl was a bit of an odd choice and her delivery was weird to me in some parts especially when she was in scenes alongside actual children. Rehashing the villain after 13 years felt lazy to me. There weren't really any well done villains outside of Steven Lang who I thought did a great job and felt less cheesy here than he did in Avatar 1. His commando squad was weak and mostly pointless. The whalers were also comically evil to an eyerolling degree and of course they have a new super substance they want to harvest from Pandora. Final battle was a good time though despite the water Na'vi all just disappearing at one point.

Anyways there's crab mechas so I give this a 10/10. Give me a spin off anime ffs.

 

I think the movie is a perfect combination of well worn, globe-friendly tropes and insane choices (genius whale badasses, teenage girls played by septuagenarians)

I don't think people realize that if it these first movies had a bugnuts story AND ten foot blue people with ponytail cords, 2 billion dollars worth of ticket buyers probably wouldn't be able to leave the theater without scratching their heads

 

The best two characters in this film.

 

Also, there was a quote I saw recently from cartoonist Michel Fiffe about his independent comic series Copra, which was great and I think is relevant here:

“I wanted to swim in the tropes, not avoid them, not deconstruct them, not judge them. I wanted to tell a straightforward story while developing characters. I wanted to entertain and make readers come back for more. To paraphrase Larry Hama, it's not the plot, it's the characters who make us care about these stories.”

 

there are two paths: the Avatar ticket machine and the ticket machine for all other movies. choose wisely

 

Here’s a new conspiracy: Avatar is the one mega franchise that is essentially owned by one lunatic rather than a giant corporation.

These idiotic takes that no one cares about Avatar is a psyop to hopefully deter people from buying into this franchise and making Cameron richer - MCU = good, Avatar = bad. And this will continue until Disney gets a bigger cut of the profits