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Representation in Art/Entertainment/Media • Page 18

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Tim, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    Kate McKinnon has become the first SNL cast member to win an Emmy. That's pretty crazy. So happy for her, she's been the real star of the show for years at this point.
     
  2. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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  3. Anthony_

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    It's almost fitting that TV is leading the push for increased diversity in media, both in general and at awards shows, considering it has at this point basically supplanted film as the superior visual art form.
     
  4. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    Well that's not true. Film's independent and foreign landscapes are often forgotten when comparing the quality between TV and movies as mediums. I do agree that specifically in American mainstream films that TV is doing a bit better in terms of diversity (everyone should be watching Queen Sugar), but the 1:1 comparison where the narrative has become that TV are higher quality than film is I think largely baseless.
     
  5. Anthony_

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    Didn't really think it needed to be said that I was speaking about American tv vs. American film, though. Figured criticizing the lack of diversity in films and in film awards was enough of an indication. My mistake.

    Further, the wealth of high-quality television coming in from more sources than can be kept track of is undeniable, as is the stagnation in quality of the mainstream American film industry. And, honestly, as someone who sees a lot of independent American films, I can say that much of what I see on television is often far more engaging than what I see in even those film.
     
  6. Nathan Sep 20, 2016
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    Nathan

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    I disagree that the American film industry is in a state of stagnation. Every year there are plenty of powerful and lasting films, just as every year there are plenty of powerful and lasting TV shows. Since this isn't about representation I don't want to clog the thread but I find that TV over movies narrative to be disingenuous or ignorant.
     
  7. Morrissey

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    So far, television shows have had a ceiling that the great films of every year consistently get above. Film will always allow more artistic expression because of the inherent limits of television (episode lengths, turnaround between seasons, need for large regular viewership, creative exhaustion and changes in writers/directors). Television is different and is more narrative, so it is hard to try and compare them anyway.
     
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  8. cybele

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  9. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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  10. iCarly Rae Jepsen Sep 28, 2016
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  11. St. Nate

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  12. Davjs

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    Makes sense to me. I wouldn't suggest reading the comments left on the page though.
     
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  14. Davjs

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    Seems like a non story to me. His comments don't seem very good, but he shouldn't have been asked the question to begin with. There shouldn't albe a quota for a movie. It seems like neither Burton or Jackson had much to say about it.
     
  15. Tim Burton's getting pretty old. That's not an excuse, but I'm just thinking, this is kind of how Cameron Crowe reacted to the Aloha backlash, and he's been making films for about as long. What I'm getting at is, maybe we shouldn't expect or rely on old people to change things.

    (I'm not equating Burton's lack of POC characters to Crowe's whitewashing, which is much more egregious.)
     
  16. Davjs

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    Didn't that Aloha movie white wash characters though? That seems like a different situation then a movie that just has white people in it.

    Edit: oops, responded too fast and didn't read the last part of your post. Nevermind.
     
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  18. Davjs

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    Should be a riot because of a movie?
     
  19. jellyfishfossil

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  20. I don't think that article specifies anywhere that she's a lesbian. Sexuality is fluid.
     
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  21. jellyfishfossil

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    I've always heard the term "queer" from people who like the same sex and I assumed it was just a more modern term for homoseuxal.

    If it's fluid then it doesn't contradict anything so that's a relief.
     
  22. cybele

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    Queer is an umbrella term that can be used by anyone whose sexuality or gender identity falls outside of what is seen as commonplace. So it can be used by anyone who does not identify as cis-gendered or heterosexual.
     
  23. Anthony_

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    Luke Cage is just incredible, you guys. It sucks that it took this long to get a person of color fronting one of these superhero shows but goddamn was it worth the wait. Not finished yet but this has the potential to be even better than Jessica Jones.
     
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  24. AndrewSoup

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  25. joe727 Oct 2, 2016
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    Angelina Jolie in talks to star in adaptation of the war memoir "Shoot Like A Girl" about Major Mary Jennings Hegar a female United States Air Force rescue helicopter pilot who was shot down over Afghanistan, heroically escaped after being shot by the Taliban while also helping save the lives of her crew and the servicemembers she was sent to rescue in the first place, and then later sued the Pentagon and helped get female exclusion from combat roles repealed.

    From what I understand this will be the first female centered war film like this, which will be a big step. Traditionally women in war films have been regulated to just playing girlfriends/wives back home, spies, and nurses. A true life story of a female war hero is a big deal.