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General Politics Discussion [ARCHIVED] • Page 458

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. DarkHotline

    Stuck In Evil Mode For 31 Days Prestigious

    I'm amazed that people still care about a bust like Tebow.
     
  2. John

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    In no way does this address everything that you've raised here - I'm struggling with the idea that I'm supposed to trust that the institutions that have failed us will protect us from Trump.
     
  3. Never count out a religious hero.
     


  4. #WheresTrump
    #TrumpsHiding
    #Howmanydayssinceapressconference
     
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  6. Haha. Forgot about that.
     
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  7. aranea

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  9. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    Tim Tebow is my newest favorite Met.
     
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  10. North Carolina is bad at being a state.
     
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  11. Thursdaysox

    We know it from the silence

    I'd really like to meet one of those 4% of democrats that said Putin, and just pick their brain a bit
     
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  12. Zip It Chris

    Be kind; everyone is on their own journey.

    Anyone ever listen to the 'Keeping it 1600' podcast? Features Jon Favreau, who was Obama's speech writer back in the good ol days. I think they share a lot of familiar viewpoints to those in this thread.
     
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  13. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

  14. Dominick

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    They're not going to protect us. That isn't their intent. Institutions, by and large, are concerned with the reproduction of their power along quite specific coordinates, hence their rejection of Trump and the likelihood that they'd present him with information, real or otherwise, that would deter any radical transformations of American foreign policy.
     
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  16. The episode yesterday where Hillary's old speech writer and Jon talked about the 2008 campaign and the views from both sides during all that was really interesting.
     
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  17. Jason Tate Sep 20, 2016
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    I'd argue it does not take any institutional elements to radically transform American foreign policy. Trump can do it without any need of external forces. Trade being one of most obvious routes (simple words and signaling from the office another, executive orders being the third, and SCOTUS being the fourth and more domestic - but not always):
    But international trade policy is one area where a President Trump could unilaterally deliver on the changes that he has promised.

    Mr. Trump has said that as president he would “rip up” international trade deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, withdraw from the World Trade Organization and sharply raise the tariffs charged on goods imported from China and Mexico. As president he could pretty much do it. And there’s very little Congress can do to stop him, even if the result is a costly trade war.

    This may seem surprising given that the Constitution explicitly gives Congress the power to “regulate Commerce with foreign Nations.” But over the years Congress has delegated much of that power to the president. Trade politics reflect an important asymmetry: New trade agreements require congressional approval, but undoing existing commitments does not. And so vast areas of international economic policy can be changed with just a president’s say-so.

    The result is that the usual checks and balances don’t apply. (For anyone wondering, yes, the same rules would apply to Hillary Clinton if she were elected.)

    And lastly: he is the commander in chief. He can order a nuclear strike. Is it likely? No idea. But zero institutional structures can prevent it ... and that alone (and his signaling the possibility itself) will immediately transform decades of foreign policy.
     
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  18. John

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    same for all the other really important things that aren't foreign policy?
     
  19. Zip It Chris

    Be kind; everyone is on their own journey.

    Todays episode has a great segment around the 20 min. mark regarding Trumps request that Hillary gets rid of her security detail...
     
  20. Dominick

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    I think institutional and structural pressures vary quite a bit, so other areas are more subject to change than others. I'd say that there, too, he'd face significant resistance to his policies even within his own party.
     
  21. John

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    One of my favorites.
     
  22. Zip It Chris

    Be kind; everyone is on their own journey.

    Edit: actually that was yesterday's too...
     
  23. John

    Trusted Prestigious

    Fair enough. I think you're probably right or at least right enough on a bunch of fronts, just not nearly enough for me, personally.
     
  24. David87

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    My guess is at least a quarter of those are racist holdovers from pre-Southern Strategy from the republicans, just never felt like switching their party identification
     
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