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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. LightWithoutHeat

    If I could just forget it

    Ah, then it was a mistake to say they "initially" pushed for those laws for that reason. However once the effect of a minimum wage on the labor force was apparent, it was used as a tactic to prevent undesirables from obtaining employment. The Davis-Bacon act was partially born out of this.
     
  2. Dominick

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    "The reality from study after study is that very few people are able to select the plan that’s best for them (including one that found only Columbia MBA students chose insurance plans better than randomly picking a plan out of a hat would). The vast majority choose the plan with the lowest premium in a tier, the plan that’s listed first on the website, or the plan they’re already enrolled in, even if it will leave them with higher total costs or poor access to care they’ll need.

    Insurers have capitalized on patients’ inability to identify plans that are better for them by pushing lower upfront costs (premiums) but much higher uncertain costs and costs at the point of care (deductibles, co-pays, out-of-network care, uncovered benefits, etc). Fully 90 percent of enrollees in the exchanges have picked high-deductible plans, compared with 24 percent in employer-sponsored insurance. Limited provider networks are now used by about half of the exchange plans, which has led to the complete exclusion of some specialist care (14 percent of plans) and an explosion of “surprise medical bills” from out-of-network care that patients think is in-network when they receive it.
    Clinton has promised to revive the Democratic campaign for a “public option,” a publicly administered health insurance plan that would compete with private insurers on the exchanges. If a new public insurance plan must negotiate with providers while trying to attract new enrollees, it’s likely to meet the same fate as the CO-OPs.

    If allowed to use Medicare’s provider network and Medicare’s payment rates, a public option would have a tremendous advantage over private insurers since Medicare pays lower rates and few providers can afford to opt out of accepting Medicare patients. A weak public option that has to negotiate health-care costs as a small startup plan will fail, while a strong public option allowed to pay Medicare’s low rates is more likely to replace private insurers than compete with them.

    The last gasp of the ACA’s market-based reforms reveals an uncomfortable truth about our health-care system: we cannot afford to expand or even maintain our current access to care without cost controls, and health-care costs cannot be controlled with competition or markets.



    Why Obamacare Didn’t Work | Jacobin
     
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  4. Dominick

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    I mean, many tools within the mainstream labor movement were utilized for racial oppression because racism is structural. Where I disagree is the idea that minimum wages and unions are unnecessary as a result of this. There have been radical union movements headed by people of color that were amazing.


    Detroit: I Do Mind Dying: A Study in Urban Revolution

    League of Revolutionary Black Workers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
  5. John

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  6. John

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    what the fuck is the deal with this shit (the tweet itself)

     
  7. Dominick

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    I mean, the Clinton campaign in 2008 did get really racist. I don't recall them being birthers, however. That just seems to be roomer on the right-wing blogosphere.
     
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  8. John

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    The quote is a lie and the tweet presents it without any indication that it's a lie. 140 characters and all that, but this isn't that difficult.
     
  9. Dominick

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    I'm just saying that Clinton's own actions assist in an association with that sort rhetoric. I do not think she is a birther. I do,however, think her campaign went to great lengths to depict Obama as un-American. In any case, the Times understands what it is doing and I think that, if it is ideological, it is oriented toward getting more clicks for profits.

    Related:

    "About the same time, a picture of Obama in traditional Somali garb (from an official trip) then appeared on the Drudge Report, and Matt Drudge claimed he got it from the Clinton campaign. After stonewalling on the origin question, the campaign later claimed it had nothing to do with it. A Clinton flack then went on MSNBC and argued that Obama should not be ashamed to appear in "his native clothing, in the clothing of his country."

    Hillary Clinton needs to address the racist undertones of her 2008 campaign
     
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  10. Zip It Chris

    Be kind; everyone is on their own journey.

    He'd make a horrendous receiver with those tiny hands...
     
  11. John

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    Sure, yeah. That's a thing. I'm talking about the press knowingly or ignorantly propagating harmful misinformation.
     
  12. Dominick

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    K.
     
  13. John Sep 16, 2016
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  14. Dominick

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    I really love this article:

    "If our only problem were that we were backward, we could always catch up. If the real challenge before us were a simple paucity of facts, we could always learn them. But the real horrors of the twenty-first century aren’t horrors of superstition and unreason, but the far more deadly horrors of a rationally administered world we are endlessly condemned to repeat. Our spherical earth is increasingly organized like one colossal factory, operating seamlessly and just in time, teeming with millions of tiny and unwilling workers, slurping up the expertise of ten thousand sharpened brains—and it’s not beautiful, it’s Hell. Everyone is wasting their lives. Everyone is unhappy. It’s not just you. The world is insane, insane in a way that doesn’t even require any of the announcements from its administrators to be factually untrue.

    If anything, the more facts we learn, the more of the universe we manage to analyze, the more new space our colossally fucked-up social order has in which to reproduce its idiocy. The atheists are the ones who really love a bad and ugly reality; its mark is on them. They stand on the trembling skin of this planet as it boils giddily through infinite space, without any materials to critique this world—because the rational is dogmatically identified with the good, and because they’ve so thoroughly trained themselves out of believing in Hell that they can’t see the real one right in front of them."

    Village Atheists, Village Idiots | Sam Kriss
     
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  15. sophos34

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  16. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  17. Trotsky Sep 16, 2016
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    Trotsky

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    St. Louisans:

    Penny Hubbard has stolen your tax dollars and used her political and economic privilege to steal from the public and further her own family's selfish oligarchy. Hubbard's Democrats have forged absentee ballots, concealed ownership stakes in polling locations, and, most recently, her daughters and husband were caught violently harassing and intimidating voters at polling locations (the worst case being when her husband pulled his muscle car into the grass in front of the door to the polling location).

    Fuck the Hubbards and make sure that, before you call it a day this evening, you get out to the polls to vote for Bruce Franks Jr. in the 78th revote.

    Ferguson, not Ladue
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  18. Trotsky

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  19. Trotsky

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    Clinton played on racist fears against Obama being an "outsider" and even posted a picture of him in Kenyan garbs to cast him as un-American.

    I have no problem with the statement.
     
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  20. You should probably let some news organizations know about this source ... or are you really thinking Matt Drudge is telling the truth?

    The statement is a lie.
     
  21. WordsfromaSong

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    wat
     
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  23. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Noticed alt right people calling themselves deplorable like in their Twitter display too
     
  24. Gotta love all the self identifying racists.
     
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